[CW] Mass Unsubscribes

Sun Dec 22 04:09:14 EST 2024

I just reubscribed. That workedSent from my Galaxy
-------- Original message --------From: Richard Knoppow <1oldlens1 at ix.netcom.com> Date: 12/21/24  11:14 PM  (GMT-08:00) To: cw at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [CW] Mass Unsubscribes     I got messages from three lists, National, Heathkit and MRCG. All said I had too many bounces and would be unsubscribed if I did not return the message. I did and got another message saying that the command string was invalid. I then got a third message from each list saying I had been unsubscribed.     I tried resending one of the reactivation messages and got the same message back that the command was invalid. I did this using both an e-mail reply and the web site. Same message in response.     I don't know what to do. Shall I just leave it alone and it will be fixed or should I re-subscribe to each.  If there were actual bounces I have no idea why.     I will try resubscribing to the National list and see what happens.On 12/21/2024 9:25 PM, Scott Neader KA9FOX wrote:> Hi David.  Are you saying you have received hundreds of emails from > people, all saying they did not want to unsubscribe?  That would be > contrary to what we believe to be true, so I'd like to get confirmation > of this.> > On another list I'm looking at, we sent test emails to a subset of those > unsubscribed and, so far, 75% of those emails bounced back as > undeliverable.  I suspect the others are still being retried (defunct > servers,etc.).> > I believe the vast majority of those unsubscribed have bad email > addresses and are rightly unsubscribed.  This is why I'd like to confirm > that you've heard from hundreds of people, saying the opposite.  Please > confirm.> > - Scott KA9FOX> > On Sat, Dec 21, 2024 at 10:34 PM D.J.J. Ring, Jr. <n1ea at arrl.net > <mailto:n1ea at arrl.net>> wrote:> >     I have hundreds of unsubscriptions, they all say they never asked>     for unsubscribe.> >     Isn't there a way to revert to what we had yesterday?> >     Best regards,> >     David Ring N1EA> >     On Sat, Dec 21, 2024, 10:30 PM Scott Neader KA9FOX <ka9fox at qsl.net>     <mailto:ka9fox at qsl.net>> wrote:> >         Hi David.  Fortunately, there was no hacking involved!  But>         there was a Mailman problem that we recently fixed that was the>         cause of the barrage of unsubscriptions (for those with current>         or past email delivery issues). Let me explain:> >         We were recently notified that Mailman 'Digests' were not>         regularly being sent out to those that subscribe to them.  This>         led us to realize that, during a software update earlier this>         year, certain crons (automated routines) for the Mailman>         software were not firing on schedule.  George K5TR was able to>         fix the issue, however there was a large log jam of Mailman>         events that began to be processed, that had been queued up to>         run for some time.> >         I can only guess that Karl (the user below that was>         unsubscribed) had some type of temporary issue with his email,>         perhaps weeks or maybe months ago, so that Mailman was unable to>         deliver list mail to his address, for some period of time, and>         caused him to get an  unsubscription added to the queue. >         Meanwhile, the issue with his email was probably resolved... but>         that unsubscription was already in the queue and was recently>         processed when the log jam was cleared.> >         I think the best plan is to either resubscribe those that you>         get notified about an unsubscription.... Or, better, would be to>         send them each an email and see if it bounces. If no bounce, it>         would be safe to resubscribe. If bouncing, then, of course, no>         need to resubscribe.> >         I'm sorry for the problem.> >         Scott KA9FOX> >         On Sat, Dec 21, 2024 at 3:08 PM D.J.J. Ring, Jr. <n1ea at arrl.net>         <mailto:n1ea at arrl.net>> wrote:> >             A hacker got into qth.net <http://qth.net> and did a massive>             unsubscribe.> >             I've notified Scott Neader, KA9FOX, owner of QSL/QTH net>             which hosts the email lists.> >             Since it's happening to all lists, I'm hopeful Scott can>             roll things back to pre-hacker.> >             73> >             David N1EA> >             On Sat, Dec 21, 2024, 11:34 AM <mailman->             bounces at mailman.qth.net <mailto:mailman->             bounces at mailman.qth.net>> wrote:> >                 The attached message was received as a bounce, but>                 either the bounce>                 format was not recognized, or no member addresses could>                 be extracted>                 from it.  This mailing list has been configured to send all>                 unrecognized bounce messages to the list administrator(s).> >                 For more information see:>                 http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/admin/cw/bounce <http://>                 mailman.qth.net/mailman/admin/cw/bounce>> > > > >                 ---------- Forwarded message ---------->                 From: Karl Zuk <karlzuk at hotmail.com>                 <mailto:karlzuk at hotmail.com>>>                 To: "cw-bounces at mailman.qth.net <mailto:cw->                 bounces at mailman.qth.net>" <cw-bounces at mailman.qth.net>                 <mailto:cw-bounces at mailman.qth.net>>>                 Cc:>                 Bcc:>                 Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2024 16:34:21 +0000>                 Subject: Re: You have been unsubscribed from the CW>                 mailing list>                 I did not want to unsubscribe!  Karl Zuk  N2KZ> >                 On Dec 21, 2024, at 10:11 AM, cw-bounces at mailman.qth.net>                 <mailto:cw-bounces at mailman.qth.net> wrote:> >                 Thank you for belonging to the CW reflector, we wish>                 you well and look>                 forward to the time when you return.> >                 73> > >         - Scott>         __> >         Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S21. Please excuse brevity and typos.> > > ______________________________________________________________> CW mailing list> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/cw> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm> Post: mailto:CW at mailman.qth.net> CW List ARCHIVES: http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/cw/> Unsubcribe send email to> cw-unsubscribe at mailman.qth.net> Subscribe send email to cw-subscribe at mailman.qth.net> Support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html> > =30=-- Richard KnoppowLos AngelesWB6KBLSKCC 19998______________________________________________________________CW mailing listHome: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/cwHelp: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htmPost: mailto:CW at mailman.qth.netCW List ARCHIVES: http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/cw/Unsubcribe send email tocw-unsubscribe at mailman.qth.netSubscribe send email to cw-subscribe at mailman.qth.netSupport this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html=30=
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