[CW] Mass Unsubscribes

[D.J.J. Ring, Jr.]

I received individual emails saying xxx unsubscribed.

One fellow figured it out and resubscribed.

It was just 100 unsubscribe emails, but that's a lot of work to add them
back.

I only received two emails from people saying they didn't unsubscribe and
wanted to know why they were unsubscribed.

But it's still going to be a lot of work to add them all back.

73

David

On Sun, Dec 22, 2024, 1:26 AM Scott Neader KA9FOX <ka9fox at qsl.net> wrote:

> Hi David.  Are you saying you have received hundreds of emails from
> people, all saying they did not want to unsubscribe?  That would be
> contrary to what we believe to be true, so I'd like to get confirmation of
> this.
>
> On another list I'm looking at, we sent test emails to a subset of those
> unsubscribed and, so far, 75% of those emails bounced back as
> undeliverable.  I suspect the others are still being retried (defunct
> servers,etc.).
>
> I believe the vast majority of those unsubscribed have bad email addresses
> and are rightly unsubscribed.  This is why I'd like to confirm that you've
> heard from hundreds of people, saying the opposite.  Please confirm.
>
> - Scott KA9FOX
>
> On Sat, Dec 21, 2024 at 10:34 PM D.J.J. Ring, Jr. <n1ea at arrl.net> wrote:
>
>> I have hundreds of unsubscriptions, they all say they never asked for
>> unsubscribe.
>>
>> Isn't there a way to revert to what we had yesterday?
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> David Ring N1EA
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 21, 2024, 10:30 PM Scott Neader KA9FOX <ka9fox at qsl.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi David.  Fortunately, there was no hacking involved!  But there was a
>>> Mailman problem that we recently fixed that was the cause of the barrage of
>>> unsubscriptions (for those with current or past email delivery issues). Let
>>> me explain:
>>>
>>> We were recently notified that Mailman 'Digests' were not regularly
>>> being sent out to those that subscribe to them.  This led us to realize
>>> that, during a software update earlier this year, certain crons (automated
>>> routines) for the Mailman software were not firing on schedule.  George
>>> K5TR was able to fix the issue, however there was a large log jam of
>>> Mailman events that began to be processed, that had been queued up to run
>>> for some time.
>>>
>>> I can only guess that Karl (the user below that was unsubscribed) had
>>> some type of temporary issue with his email, perhaps weeks or maybe months
>>> ago, so that Mailman was unable to deliver list mail to his address, for
>>> some period of time, and caused him to get an  unsubscription added to the
>>> queue.  Meanwhile, the issue with his email was probably resolved... but
>>> that unsubscription was already in the queue and was recently processed
>>> when the log jam was cleared.
>>>
>>> I think the best plan is to either resubscribe those that you get
>>> notified about an unsubscription.... Or, better, would be to send them each
>>> an email and see if it bounces. If no bounce, it would be safe to
>>> resubscribe. If bouncing, then, of course, no need to resubscribe.
>>>
>>> I'm sorry for the problem.
>>>
>>> Scott KA9FOX
>>>
>>> On Sat, Dec 21, 2024 at 3:08 PM D.J.J. Ring, Jr. <n1ea at arrl.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> A hacker got into qth.net and did a massive unsubscribe.
>>>>
>>>> I've notified Scott Neader, KA9FOX, owner of QSL/QTH net which hosts
>>>> the email lists.
>>>>
>>>> Since it's happening to all lists, I'm hopeful Scott can roll things
>>>> back to pre-hacker.
>>>>
>>>> 73
>>>>
>>>> David N1EA
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Dec 21, 2024, 11:34 AM <mailman-bounces at mailman.qth.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The attached message was received as a bounce, but either the bounce
>>>>> format was not recognized, or no member addresses could be extracted
>>>>> from it.  This mailing list has been configured to send all
>>>>> unrecognized bounce messages to the list administrator(s).
>>>>>
>>>>> For more information see:
>>>>> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/admin/cw/bounce
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>> From: Karl Zuk <karlzuk at hotmail.com>
>>>>> To: "cw-bounces at mailman.qth.net" <cw-bounces at mailman.qth.net>
>>>>> Cc:
>>>>> Bcc:
>>>>> Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2024 16:34:21 +0000
>>>>> Subject: Re: You have been unsubscribed from the CW mailing list
>>>>> I did not want to unsubscribe!  Karl Zuk  N2KZ
>>>>>
>>>>> On Dec 21, 2024, at 10:11 AM, cw-bounces at mailman.qth.net wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you for belonging to the CW reflector, we wish you well and look
>>>>> forward to the time when you return.
>>>>>
>>>>> 73
>>>>>
>>>>
>>> - Scott
>>> __
>>>
>>> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S21. Please excuse brevity and typos.
>>>
>>
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