I just reubscribed. That worked



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-------- Original message --------
From: Richard Knoppow <[email protected]>
Date: 12/21/24 11:14 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [CW] Mass Unsubscribes

    I got messages from three lists, National, Heathkit and MRCG. All
said I had too many bounces and would be unsubscribed if I did not
return the message. I did and got another message saying that the
command string was invalid. I then got a third message from each list
saying I had been unsubscribed.
     I tried resending one of the reactivation messages and got the same
message back that the command was invalid. I did this using both an
e-mail reply and the web site. Same message in response.
     I don't know what to do. Shall I just leave it alone and it will be
fixed or should I re-subscribe to each.  If there were actual bounces I
have no idea why.
     I will try resubscribing to the National list and see what happens.

On 12/21/2024 9:25 PM, Scott Neader KA9FOX wrote:
> Hi David.  Are you saying you have received hundreds of emails from
> people, all saying they did not want to unsubscribe?  That would be
> contrary to what we believe to be true, so I'd like to get confirmation
> of this.
>
> On another list I'm looking at, we sent test emails to a subset of those
> unsubscribed and, so far, 75% of those emails bounced back as
> undeliverable.  I suspect the others are still being retried (defunct
> servers,etc.).
>
> I believe the vast majority of those unsubscribed have bad email
> addresses and are rightly unsubscribed.  This is why I'd like to confirm
> that you've heard from hundreds of people, saying the opposite.  Please
> confirm.
>
> - Scott KA9FOX
>
> On Sat, Dec 21, 2024 at 10:34 PM D.J.J. Ring, Jr. <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>     I have hundreds of unsubscriptions, they all say they never asked
>     for unsubscribe.
>
>     Isn't there a way to revert to what we had yesterday?
>
>     Best regards,
>
>     David Ring N1EA
>
>     On Sat, Dec 21, 2024, 10:30 PM Scott Neader KA9FOX <[email protected]
>     <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>         Hi David.  Fortunately, there was no hacking involved!  But
>         there was a Mailman problem that we recently fixed that was the
>         cause of the barrage of unsubscriptions (for those with current
>         or past email delivery issues). Let me explain:
>
>         We were recently notified that Mailman 'Digests' were not
>         regularly being sent out to those that subscribe to them.  This
>         led us to realize that, during a software update earlier this
>         year, certain crons (automated routines) for the Mailman
>         software were not firing on schedule.  George K5TR was able to
>         fix the issue, however there was a large log jam of Mailman
>         events that began to be processed, that had been queued up to
>         run for some time.
>
>         I can only guess that Karl (the user below that was
>         unsubscribed) had some type of temporary issue with his email,
>         perhaps weeks or maybe months ago, so that Mailman was unable to
>         deliver list mail to his address, for some period of time, and
>         caused him to get an  unsubscription added to the queue.
>         Meanwhile, the issue with his email was probably resolved... but
>         that unsubscription was already in the queue and was recently
>         processed when the log jam was cleared.
>
>         I think the best plan is to either resubscribe those that you
>         get notified about an unsubscription.... Or, better, would be to
>         send them each an email and see if it bounces. If no bounce, it
>         would be safe to resubscribe. If bouncing, then, of course, no
>         need to resubscribe.
>
>         I'm sorry for the problem.
>
>         Scott KA9FOX
>
>         On Sat, Dec 21, 2024 at 3:08 PM D.J.J. Ring, Jr. <[email protected]
>         <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>             A hacker got into qth.net <http://qth.net> and did a massive
>             unsubscribe.
>
>             I've notified Scott Neader, KA9FOX, owner of QSL/QTH net
>             which hosts the email lists.
>
>             Since it's happening to all lists, I'm hopeful Scott can
>             roll things back to pre-hacker.
>
>             73
>
>             David N1EA
>
>             On Sat, Dec 21, 2024, 11:34 AM <mailman-
>             [email protected] <mailto:mailman-
>             [email protected]>> wrote:
>
>                 The attached message was received as a bounce, but
>                 either the bounce
>                 format was not recognized, or no member addresses could
>                 be extracted
>                 from it.  This mailing list has been configured to send all
>                 unrecognized bounce messages to the list administrator(s).
>
>                 For more information see:
>                 http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/admin/cw/bounce <http://
>                 mailman.qth.net/mailman/admin/cw/bounce>
>
>
>
>
>                 ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>                 From: Karl Zuk <[email protected]
>                 <mailto:[email protected]>>
>                 To: "[email protected] <mailto:cw-
>                 [email protected]>" <[email protected]
>                 <mailto:[email protected]>>
>                 Cc:
>                 Bcc:
>                 Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2024 16:34:21 +0000
>                 Subject: Re: You have been unsubscribed from the CW
>                 mailing list
>                 I did not want to unsubscribe!  Karl Zuk  N2KZ
>
>                 On Dec 21, 2024, at 10:11 AM, [email protected]
>                 <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>
>                 Thank you for belonging to the CW reflector, we wish
>                 you well and look
>                 forward to the time when you return.
>
>                 73
>
>
>         - Scott
>         __
>
>         Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S21. Please excuse brevity and typos.
>
>
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Richard Knoppow
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