[TrunkCom] while we are on the subject of encryption

[JERRY NONE]

This is correct.  Don't sosme systems have plans that
certain agencies have priority over othere in the
event of an emergency?  Also, do NOT some agencies
have acesss to Radio (Read Cell - Well they are
nothing but fancy two way radios tha tact like phones,
eh?) Phones and can bump the John Q Public in the
event of an emergency?  Although I do NTO know how any
of the above would work.

--- bearcat <rwnewbould at comcast.net> wrote:

> Do not be fooled that just because systems are P25
> that you have
> interoperability.
> 
> ---- Encryption keys must be shared or comms need to
> be in the clear
> ---- On trunked systems the radios must be
> registered on the system to
> allow for channel grants.
> ---- Some P25 trunking is explict some is implicit.
> ---- Some trunked systems would have trouble
> handling the extra users,
> just not enough channels       to go around
> 
> Interoperability can be achieved very easily through
> the use of shared
> conventional freq., also  The "I" word has our govt
> officials spending
> our money feveriously and for what ?  Another system
> that will fail
> during a disaster, probably.  Everyone points to
> Katrina, the real truth
> there is the problem was so enormous that is was not
> manageable anyway,
> we would like to think it was manageable but is was
> not. 
> 
> I am certainly not much of a fan of OpenSky but it
> can be easily ported
> to a P25 system through patches at the dispatch
> consoles.
> 
> I do not believe we have interoperability anymore
> today than we did 5
> years ago, we just think we do. 
> 
> If local authorities would work with their
> neighboring communities and
> really work out a communications plan and freq
> sharing then you will
> have interoperabiltity.
> 
> Imagine a major disaster in a county with a
> countywide trunked P25
> system.  I am talking every agency in the county is
> activated.  The
> system will never handle the traffic.
> 
> A well planned local conventional system would work
> well.
> 
> Rich 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
>
trunkcom-bounces+rwnewbould=comcast.net at mailman.qth.net
>
[mailto:trunkcom-bounces+rwnewbould=comcast.net at mailman.qth.net]
> On
> Behalf Of Arthur-Bryan E. Phelps
> Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 8:54 PM
> To: 'Discussion of Monitoring Trunk Radio Systems'
> Subject: RE: [TrunkCom] while we are on the subject
> of encryption
> 
> 
> I believe that M/A Com will interface with P25
> systems. Check their web
> site. 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
> trunkcom-bounces+aphelps=enter.net at mailman.qth.net
>
[mailto:trunkcom-bounces+aphelps=enter.net at mailman.qth.net]
> On Behalf Of
> JETorres
> Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 7:56 PM
> To: Discussion of Monitoring Trunk Radio Systems
> Subject: Re: [TrunkCom] while we are on the subject
> of encryption
> 
> On Nov 6, 2006, at 2:55 PM, Scott Berringer wrote:
> 
> > Federal entities using ProVoice? Hmmm........
> Okay. Considering all
> > the P-25 systems that are currently popping up on
> federal 
> > installations across the country as we speak. But,
> if they say so.....
> 
> 
> EXACTLY! I agree with that.
> 
> If that is the case with ProVoice then what the heck
> is the point of
> standards and open-source and trying to achieve
> "transparent"  
> Interoperability? Plus as far as I know, all the
> money grants "raining"
> from
> Homeland Security do stipulate at least some P-25
> requirements in order
> to
> get the grants.
> 
> All reasons related to our hobby aside, this is some
> serious fraud,
> waste
> and abuse of tax payers money to allow so many
> proprietary AND
> incompatible
> technologies to be used as primary communications
> systems for Public
> Safety,
> especially with all the money, time and effort
> already spent NATIONWIDE
> on
> P25 related technology that will go down the drain
> and we all end up
> even
> worse than today as far as efficiently communicating
> during emergency
> events.
> 
> And as usual who gets it in the end? (no pun
> intended) The tax payers,
> who
> might possibly even pay with their lives when these
> egotistic agencies
> can't
> communicate during an emergency.......
> 
>
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