[TrunkCom] while we are on the subject of encryption

[JERRY NONE]

That is what "THEY" would like.
Just say NO to Provoice and OpenSky.

--- "Arthur-Bryan E. Phelps" <aphelps at enter.net>
wrote:

> In spite of ALL the problems Tyco M/A Com has had in
> the Commonwealth of
> Pennsylvania, I understand that New York's system is
> well planned and moving
> forward in a timely manner. Also,I have read
> articles about local and even
> federal entities signing contracts with M/A Com.  In
> fact, some folks
> speculate that by 2008 all federal entities will be
> using ProVoice. The next
> year or so could be somewhat frustrating for those
> who scan public service
> (e.g. law enforcement).  Between rebanding and
> ProVoice systems many
> scanners may become prematurely obsolete. 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
> trunkcom-bounces+aphelps=enter.net at mailman.qth.net
>
[mailto:trunkcom-bounces+aphelps=enter.net at mailman.qth.net]
> On Behalf Of
> Jeff Kenyon
> Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 6:33 PM
> To: Discussion of Monitoring Trunk Radio Systems
> Subject: Re: [TrunkCom] while we are on the subject
> of encryption
> 
> That was the last thing I heard.  I don't know if
> they'll ever work with
> Uniden or anyone for ProVoice though.  It seems as
> though there are more
> ProVoice systems coming all the time.  Do you all
> think that this eventually
> will evolve into OpenSky?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Arthur-Bryan E. Phelps" <aphelps at enter.net>
> To: "'Discussion of Monitoring Trunk Radio Systems'"
> 
> <trunkcom at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 5:43 PM
> Subject: RE: [TrunkCom] while we are on the subject
> of encryption
> 
> 
> > The original contract with the Commonwealth did
> include a provision 
> > for registered "scanners" - probably radios with
> the transmitting 
> > circuitry disabled - for use by LE, news media,
> etc.  I do not know if 
> > it would be released to an individual. The unit ID
> would be displayed 
> > on a console in the dispatch center when the
> scanner was powered up 
> > and could be disabled at will if the PSP did not
> want sensitive 
> > information disclosed. The last I heard, was that
> M/A Com OpenSky was 
> > "looking" to form a partnership with a company,
> e.g. Uniden to make 
> > and license a scanner.  So, if that is true, it
> negates the initial 
> > option.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:
> trunkcom-bounces+aphelps=enter.net at mailman.qth.net
> >
>
[mailto:trunkcom-bounces+aphelps=enter.net at mailman.qth.net]
> On Behalf 
> > Of Scott Berringer
> > Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 4:59 PM
> > To: Discussion of Monitoring Trunk Radio Systems
> > Subject: Re: [TrunkCom] while we are on the
> subject of encryption
> >
> > There has been talk forever about an OpenSky
> 'receiver' being 
> > manufactured by MA/COM for being able to monitor
> the Pennsylvania 
> > system. However, that has never come to fruit. I
> don't think it ever 
> > will. Honestly, I don't even think the OpenSky
> systems will survive.
> > Especially not with everyone trying to get
> everything P-25 compliant.
> >
> > IMHO, Encryption should ONLY be used for sensitive
> ops (VICE, NARCS, 
> > SWAT,
> > etc...) not for day to day ops. If you need to
> encrypt your car-to-car 
> > channels, you got issues. Also, encryption should
> only be available 
> > for law enforcement and possibly arson
> investigators. But, only on an 
> > as-needed basis for sensitive ops.
> >
> > There is one city in Ohio that comes to mind that
> everyone is always 
> > whining about. Canton, Ohio PD. They have all of
> their main PD 
> > talkgroups encrypted in addition to them being
> P-25 digital 
> > modulation.
> > With encryption for routine operations, if you
> give out a BOLO, the 
> > citizens can't lend an additional set of eyes/ears
> because they don't 
> > know that the BOLO has been issued. Some people
> (system 
> > administrators) have been suckered by smooth
> talking sales reps (from 
> > Motorola and
> > MA/COM) in to thinking that they NEED full-time
> encryption. Those 
> > sales reps are the ones that show up for a sales
> meeting in a 
> > Mercedes, or a Hummer because they get paid WAY
> TOO MUCH $$$$$$$$.
> >
> >
> >
> > Jeff Kenyon wrote:
> >
> >> Hi everyone, while we are on the subject of
> encryption in the few
> >> rumors I have seen on the net about a possible
> OpenSky scanner coming
> >> out one thing that was mentioned was encryption
> there, and the fact
> >> that the radio would be able to be disabled if
> need be.  These threads
> >> have been here and there, but I would imagine
> anything OpenSky would
> >> be a long ways out, and I know that in PA and
> Oakland County, Michigan
> >> we have to get our systems working first!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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