[TrunkCom] while we are on the subject of encryption

JERRY NONE thepolishdude at yahoo.com
Tue Nov 7 09:34:54 EST 2006


Isn't OpenSky a form of TDMA or CDMA?  
Ain't there a plan to eventually change P-25 Phase 1
to Phase 2 or TDMA or CDMA?

--- Jeff Kenyon <at649 at tcnet.org> wrote:

> That was the last thing I heard.  I don't know if
> they'll ever work with 
> Uniden or anyone for ProVoice though.  It seems as
> though there are more 
> ProVoice systems coming all the time.  Do you all
> think that this eventually 
> will evolve into OpenSky?
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Arthur-Bryan E. Phelps" <aphelps at enter.net>
> To: "'Discussion of Monitoring Trunk Radio Systems'"
> 
> <trunkcom at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 5:43 PM
> Subject: RE: [TrunkCom] while we are on the subject
> of encryption
> 
> 
> > The original contract with the Commonwealth did
> include a provision for
> > registered "scanners" - probably radios with the
> transmitting circuitry
> > disabled - for use by LE, news media, etc.  I do
> not know if it would be
> > released to an individual. The unit ID would be
> displayed on a console in
> > the dispatch center when the scanner was powered
> up and could be disabled 
> > at
> > will if the PSP did not want sensitive information
> disclosed. The last I
> > heard, was that M/A Com OpenSky was "looking" to
> form a partnership with a
> > company, e.g. Uniden to make and license a
> scanner.  So, if that is true, 
> > it
> > negates the initial option.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:
> trunkcom-bounces+aphelps=enter.net at mailman.qth.net
> >
>
[mailto:trunkcom-bounces+aphelps=enter.net at mailman.qth.net]
> On Behalf Of
> > Scott Berringer
> > Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 4:59 PM
> > To: Discussion of Monitoring Trunk Radio Systems
> > Subject: Re: [TrunkCom] while we are on the
> subject of encryption
> >
> > There has been talk forever about an OpenSky
> 'receiver' being manufactured
> > by MA/COM for being able to monitor the
> Pennsylvania system. However, that
> > has never come to fruit. I don't think it ever
> will. Honestly, I don't 
> > even
> > think the OpenSky systems will survive.
> > Especially not with everyone trying to get
> everything P-25 compliant.
> >
> > IMHO, Encryption should ONLY be used for sensitive
> ops (VICE, NARCS, SWAT,
> > etc...) not for day to day ops. If you need to
> encrypt your car-to-car
> > channels, you got issues. Also, encryption should
> only be available for 
> > law
> > enforcement and possibly arson investigators. But,
> only on an as-needed
> > basis for sensitive ops.
> >
> > There is one city in Ohio that comes to mind that
> everyone is always 
> > whining
> > about. Canton, Ohio PD. They have all of their
> main PD talkgroups 
> > encrypted
> > in addition to them being P-25 digital modulation.
> > With encryption for routine operations, if you
> give out a BOLO, the 
> > citizens
> > can't lend an additional set of eyes/ears because
> they don't know that the
> > BOLO has been issued. Some people (system
> administrators) have been 
> > suckered
> > by smooth talking sales reps (from Motorola and
> > MA/COM) in to thinking that they NEED full-time
> encryption. Those sales 
> > reps
> > are the ones that show up for a sales meeting in a
> Mercedes, or a Hummer
> > because they get paid WAY TOO MUCH $$$$$$$$.
> >
> >
> >
> > Jeff Kenyon wrote:
> >
> >> Hi everyone, while we are on the subject of
> encryption in the few
> >> rumors I have seen on the net about a possible
> OpenSky scanner coming
> >> out one thing that was mentioned was encryption
> there, and the fact
> >> that the radio would be able to be disabled if
> need be.  These threads
> >> have been here and there, but I would imagine
> anything OpenSky would
> >> be a long ways out, and I know that in PA and
> Oakland County, Michigan
> >> we have to get our systems working first!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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