[TrunkCom] while we are on the subject of encryption

[Jeff Kenyon]

I hadn't heard of a set plan for phase II but one idea was a TDMA type set 
up.
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From: "JERRY NONE" <thepolishdude at yahoo.com>
To: "Discussion of Monitoring Trunk Radio Systems" 
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Subject: Re: [TrunkCom] while we are on the subject of encryption


> Isn't OpenSky a form of TDMA or CDMA?
> Ain't there a plan to eventually change P-25 Phase 1
> to Phase 2 or TDMA or CDMA?
>
> --- Jeff Kenyon <at649 at tcnet.org> wrote:
>
>> That was the last thing I heard.  I don't know if
>> they'll ever work with
>> Uniden or anyone for ProVoice though.  It seems as
>> though there are more
>> ProVoice systems coming all the time.  Do you all
>> think that this eventually
>> will evolve into OpenSky?
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Arthur-Bryan E. Phelps" <aphelps at enter.net>
>> To: "'Discussion of Monitoring Trunk Radio Systems'"
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>> Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 5:43 PM
>> Subject: RE: [TrunkCom] while we are on the subject
>> of encryption
>>
>>
>> > The original contract with the Commonwealth did
>> include a provision for
>> > registered "scanners" - probably radios with the
>> transmitting circuitry
>> > disabled - for use by LE, news media, etc.  I do
>> not know if it would be
>> > released to an individual. The unit ID would be
>> displayed on a console in
>> > the dispatch center when the scanner was powered
>> up and could be disabled
>> > at
>> > will if the PSP did not want sensitive information
>> disclosed. The last I
>> > heard, was that M/A Com OpenSky was "looking" to
>> form a partnership with a
>> > company, e.g. Uniden to make and license a
>> scanner.  So, if that is true,
>> > it
>> > negates the initial option.
>> >
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> [mailto:trunkcom-bounces+aphelps=enter.net at mailman.qth.net]
>> On Behalf Of
>> > Scott Berringer
>> > Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 4:59 PM
>> > To: Discussion of Monitoring Trunk Radio Systems
>> > Subject: Re: [TrunkCom] while we are on the
>> subject of encryption
>> >
>> > There has been talk forever about an OpenSky
>> 'receiver' being manufactured
>> > by MA/COM for being able to monitor the
>> Pennsylvania system. However, that
>> > has never come to fruit. I don't think it ever
>> will. Honestly, I don't
>> > even
>> > think the OpenSky systems will survive.
>> > Especially not with everyone trying to get
>> everything P-25 compliant.
>> >
>> > IMHO, Encryption should ONLY be used for sensitive
>> ops (VICE, NARCS, SWAT,
>> > etc...) not for day to day ops. If you need to
>> encrypt your car-to-car
>> > channels, you got issues. Also, encryption should
>> only be available for
>> > law
>> > enforcement and possibly arson investigators. But,
>> only on an as-needed
>> > basis for sensitive ops.
>> >
>> > There is one city in Ohio that comes to mind that
>> everyone is always
>> > whining
>> > about. Canton, Ohio PD. They have all of their
>> main PD talkgroups
>> > encrypted
>> > in addition to them being P-25 digital modulation.
>> > With encryption for routine operations, if you
>> give out a BOLO, the
>> > citizens
>> > can't lend an additional set of eyes/ears because
>> they don't know that the
>> > BOLO has been issued. Some people (system
>> administrators) have been
>> > suckered
>> > by smooth talking sales reps (from Motorola and
>> > MA/COM) in to thinking that they NEED full-time
>> encryption. Those sales
>> > reps
>> > are the ones that show up for a sales meeting in a
>> Mercedes, or a Hummer
>> > because they get paid WAY TOO MUCH $$$$$$$$.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Jeff Kenyon wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi everyone, while we are on the subject of
>> encryption in the few
>> >> rumors I have seen on the net about a possible
>> OpenSky scanner coming
>> >> out one thing that was mentioned was encryption
>> there, and the fact
>> >> that the radio would be able to be disabled if
>> need be.  These threads
>> >> have been here and there, but I would imagine
>> anything OpenSky would
>> >> be a long ways out, and I know that in PA and
>> Oakland County, Michigan
>> >> we have to get our systems working first!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
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