[TrunkCom] while we are on the subject of encryption

[Jeff Kenyon]

Does anyone think that some time down the road and I mean years that
they'll be a single nation wide system for everyone that intogrates
current systems into one big unified system?





On Mon, 6 Nov 2006, Scott Berringer wrote:

> Federal entities using ProVoice? Hmmm........ Okay. Considering all the
> P-25 systems that are currently popping up on federal installations
> across the country as we speak. But, if they say so.....
>
>
> Arthur-Bryan E. Phelps wrote:
>
> > In spite of ALL the problems Tyco M/A Com has had in the Commonwealth of
> > Pennsylvania, I understand that New York's system is well planned and moving
> > forward in a timely manner. Also,I have read articles about local and even
> > federal entities signing contracts with M/A Com.  In fact, some folks
> > speculate that by 2008 all federal entities will be using ProVoice. The next
> > year or so could be somewhat frustrating for those who scan public service
> > (e.g. law enforcement).  Between rebanding and ProVoice systems many
> > scanners may become prematurely obsolete.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: trunkcom-bounces+aphelps=enter.net at mailman.qth.net
> > [mailto:trunkcom-bounces+aphelps=enter.net at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of
> > Jeff Kenyon
> > Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 6:33 PM
> > To: Discussion of Monitoring Trunk Radio Systems
> > Subject: Re: [TrunkCom] while we are on the subject of encryption
> >
> > That was the last thing I heard.  I don't know if they'll ever work with
> > Uniden or anyone for ProVoice though.  It seems as though there are more
> > ProVoice systems coming all the time.  Do you all think that this eventually
> > will evolve into OpenSky?
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Arthur-Bryan E. Phelps" <aphelps at enter.net>
> > To: "'Discussion of Monitoring Trunk Radio Systems'"
> > <trunkcom at mailman.qth.net>
> > Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 5:43 PM
> > Subject: RE: [TrunkCom] while we are on the subject of encryption
> >
> >
> >
> >>The original contract with the Commonwealth did include a provision
> >>for registered "scanners" - probably radios with the transmitting
> >>circuitry disabled - for use by LE, news media, etc.  I do not know if
> >>it would be released to an individual. The unit ID would be displayed
> >>on a console in the dispatch center when the scanner was powered up
> >>and could be disabled at will if the PSP did not want sensitive
> >>information disclosed. The last I heard, was that M/A Com OpenSky was
> >>"looking" to form a partnership with a company, e.g. Uniden to make
> >>and license a scanner.  So, if that is true, it negates the initial
> >>option.
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: trunkcom-bounces+aphelps=enter.net at mailman.qth.net
> >>[mailto:trunkcom-bounces+aphelps=enter.net at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf
> >>Of Scott Berringer
> >>Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 4:59 PM
> >>To: Discussion of Monitoring Trunk Radio Systems
> >>Subject: Re: [TrunkCom] while we are on the subject of encryption
> >>
> >>There has been talk forever about an OpenSky 'receiver' being
> >>manufactured by MA/COM for being able to monitor the Pennsylvania
> >>system. However, that has never come to fruit. I don't think it ever
> >>will. Honestly, I don't even think the OpenSky systems will survive.
> >>Especially not with everyone trying to get everything P-25 compliant.
> >>
> >>IMHO, Encryption should ONLY be used for sensitive ops (VICE, NARCS,
> >>SWAT,
> >>etc...) not for day to day ops. If you need to encrypt your car-to-car
> >>channels, you got issues. Also, encryption should only be available
> >>for law enforcement and possibly arson investigators. But, only on an
> >>as-needed basis for sensitive ops.
> >>
> >>There is one city in Ohio that comes to mind that everyone is always
> >>whining about. Canton, Ohio PD. They have all of their main PD
> >>talkgroups encrypted in addition to them being P-25 digital
> >>modulation.
> >>With encryption for routine operations, if you give out a BOLO, the
> >>citizens can't lend an additional set of eyes/ears because they don't
> >>know that the BOLO has been issued. Some people (system
> >>administrators) have been suckered by smooth talking sales reps (from
> >>Motorola and
> >>MA/COM) in to thinking that they NEED full-time encryption. Those
> >>sales reps are the ones that show up for a sales meeting in a
> >>Mercedes, or a Hummer because they get paid WAY TOO MUCH $$$$$$$$.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Jeff Kenyon wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Hi everyone, while we are on the subject of encryption in the few
> >>>rumors I have seen on the net about a possible OpenSky scanner coming
> >>>out one thing that was mentioned was encryption there, and the fact
> >>>that the radio would be able to be disabled if need be.  These threads
> >>>have been here and there, but I would imagine anything OpenSky would
> >>>be a long ways out, and I know that in PA and Oakland County, Michigan
> >>>we have to get our systems working first!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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