[TrunkCom] Re: Moving to the Yahoo groups?

[Craig]

There is a group called TrunkCom2 on Yahoogroups. anyone who 
wants could move there. 


>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: trunkcom-bounces at mailman.qth.net 
>>[mailto:trunkcom-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Tom S
>>Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 6:33 PM
>>To: Discussion of Monitoring Trunk Radio Systems
>>Subject: [TrunkCom] Re: Moving to the Yahoo groups?
>>
>>Hello Trunkcom members;
>>
>>You have not heard much out of Dave or myself in the last several 
>>weeks. This is because we have decided to part ways with Trunkcom and 
>>QTH.net.
>>
>>As you know, after he and I discussed the matter at great 
>length, Dave 
>>N8OAY posted a message to the list exploring the
>>*possibility* of moving the list to Yahoogroups, and you will recall 
>>that it was posted as an inquiry, only, to the possibility and the 
>>feelings of the membership regarding such a change. We felt that this 
>>change was worth exploring because of the problems we had been 
>>receiving complaints about, primarily complaints of message delivery 
>>problems with regard to some ISPs efforts to block spam. Some 
>ISPs even 
>>block messages from QTH.net entirely. We also wished to have the 
>>capability to store files (regional files for programs like 
>>Win92/95/96, Butel products and the like) for the membership 
>to share. 
>>Finally, Yahoogroups are much easier to administer.
>>
>>The messages Dave and I received in response were more than
>>2:1 in favor of the move.
>>
>>Shortly (a day or so) after Dave posted the message merely mentioning 
>>the *possibility* of moving to Yahoo groups, we discovered that our 
>>access to the group had been blocked. When Dave enquired of Tim (the 
>>System Admin of QTH.NET) as to the problem, he was told in no 
>uncertain 
>>terms that Al Waller (owner of QSL/QTH) was absolutely opposed to 
>>moving any public list to another server and that we had been blocked 
>>to prevent us doing so.
>>
>>Tim then added insult to injury by insinuating that we would disrupt 
>>the list, or even hijack the membership list, move it to Yahoo, and 
>>shut the QTH list down.
>>
>>This action was taken unilaterally on Tim's part (with Al's later 
>>concurrence), and with absolutely no effort whatsoever on 
>their part to 
>>contact us first to ascertain the reason for our consideration of 
>>moving the list, or any attempt to explain Al's feelings on 
>the matter. 
>>It was only after Tim was asked why we could not access the admin 
>>interface for the list that we were told.
>>
>>After contacting Al in an attempt to cordially resolve the 
>impasse, the 
>>result was the same. Al's response, too, was the
>>same: the list isn't leaving QTH. Even though we had only 
>explored the 
>>mere possibility of moving the list, and attempted to resolve the 
>>situation amicably, our access remained blocked.
>>
>>It was at that point that we decided to part ways with QTH.net 
>>completely. Over the years we have served as Trunkcom admins, we have 
>>had to put up with a lot, as well as taking our valuable time to 
>>monitor the list.
>>We did it as a labor of love and dedication to the hobby, with no 
>>thought of compansation or recognition.
>>However, the draconian attitude of both Al and Tim, and their 
>insulting 
>>and heavy-handed actions with no attempt whatsoever to resolve the 
>>situation amicably, made us decide that we could not remain 
>associated 
>>with QTH.net any longer.
>>
>>I would therefore like to pass along our farewells to the group, and 
>>our best wishes to everyone for the future.
>>
>>Tom WA8PYR
>>
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