[TrunkCom] regular talk groups and private calls and configurations

JERRY NONE thepolishdude at yahoo.com
Mon Feb 14 09:51:32 EST 2005 

I do NOT think that I have ever seen any list include
the I-Calls, only MOTOROLA(Since I think you mentioned
that this is a MOTOROLA TRS.) Talk Groups divisible by
16 and Status Bit Talk Groups that are 
N O T divisible by 16.
How can you tell if the Talk Group is Regular or
Status with a calculator or computer?  Well the GRE
models will only accept the Regular Talk Groups while
the Uniden models will accept both.
What I do NOT know is when you are listening to an 
I-Call is that if that is Talk Group that is displayed
on the screen or the actual I.D of the individual
RADIOS.  On small systems I suppose one can monitor 
I-Calls with ease even though the scanner may NOT
include the function, on bigger systems it gets
complicated.  Here is the other thing about I-Calls,
on my Pro-92B; I can see them displayed on MOTOROLA
TRSs but on EDACS just like with the LCNS when the
scanner is in SEARCH mode, you ain't gonna see them
displayed on the Talk Group/P.L./D.P.L. line.
How do you recongiure the RADIOS?
Know if the bus system actual owns the TRS well then
you migth have to go the ADA Adminstrator, and then
the bus board.  Here in North East Ohio, the company
actual has their own frequencies even though they have
COUNTY plates on the buses but they do NOT use I-Calls
as far as I know.  So PARATRANSIT has it own Talk
Groups, so you might have to go to whoever is in
charge of PARATRANSIT then to the board and then maybe
to the COUNTY?  I really do NOT know.  You might even
haveto talk to the RADIO SHOP FOLKS.
DISCLAIMER:  I am NOT a lawyer NOT do I play one on
TV.
I do NOT work with radios, radio is my hobby only.
This advise is only provided since I am a nice guy.
Is this system located in Michigan?  First they might
NOT like the fact that you can listen in on the TRS
after they spent all that money and I hope that you
have a permit if you carry your scanner 
around with you.  Then again, they might NOT care if
you lisiten to the TRS.  I know that here in North
East Ohio, they have a Two Tower Affiliation Networked
EDACS TRS based on the Transit Master System, this
includes AVL too.  The Transit Master Units look like
over grown PDAs on the buses almost like 
minature laptops.  I hope that this will help you out.


--- Jeff Kenyon <at649 at tcnet.org> wrote:

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> 
> That sounds logical, but with a curb to curb type
> set up threally should
> be able to do that to see where others are and make
> service more
> efficient.  For a few weeks there I wasn't really
> clear as to what they
> were using.  I know taht they have fleet calls that
> I think just dispatch
> can handle, but what I'm trying to figure out is if
> they are using a
> combination of ragular talk groups or I-calls or
> both.  In looking at the
> talk group list there are a lot of groups that just
> say shuttle, but I'll
> have to see what they are using next week.
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> On Sun, 13 Feb 2005, JERRY NONE wrote:
> 
> > Win a new Icom IC-756PROIII and help QSL/QTH.net
> > Details at: http://mailman.qth.net/index.html
> >
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> >
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> >
> > Maybe and this is just a guess on my part, they
> use
> > I-Calls to avoid having the drivers talk to each
> > other.
> >
> > --- Jeff Kenyon <at649 at tcnet.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Win a new Icom IC-756PROIII and help QSL/QTH.net
> > > Details at: http://mailman.qth.net/index.html
> > >
> >
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> > >
> > > Well, is I am going to start monitoring again I
> am
> > > going to do it with my
> > > Uniden since it will monitor I-calls.  This is
> what
> > > I can't figure out.
> > > I-calls are seemingly used moderately but not
> much,
> > > so what I am wondering
> > > is is there a way of using a regular talk group
> for
> > > coms between the bus and
> > > dispatch and having it set up so that they can
> use
> > > this kind of setup while
> > > using a regular talk group?  The driver I talked
> to
> > > today doesn't like the
> > > set up and she was one of the trainers who
> trained
> > > the other drivers when
> > > SMART moved to their type II TRS in 2001.  For
> large
> > > buses this is good
> > > using private calls, but for ADA curb to curb
> type
> > > operations it is better
> > > for them to just have the ability to talk unit
> to
> > > unit rather then go
> > > through dispatch every time they need to take
> care
> > > of something.
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "JERRY NONE" <thepolishdude at yahoo.com>
> > > To: "Discussion of Monitoring Trunk Radio
> Systems"
> > > <trunkcom at mailman.qth.net>
> > > Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 4:42 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [TrunkCom] regular talk groups and
> > > private calls
> > > andconfigurations
> > >
> > >
> > > > Win a new Icom IC-756PROIII and help
> QSL/QTH.net
> > > > Details at: http://mailman.qth.net/index.html
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi Jeff.  I have yet to see a Motorola TRS set
> up
> > > so
> > > > that only one bus can talk to a dispatcher
> andthe
> > > > dispatcher can talk to that driver.  I have
> seen
> > > it
> > > > done on LTR systems.  Seems like there are
> alot of
> > > LTR
> > > > TRSs that have this particular set up for
> Taxis.
> > > > Everytime a Taxi Driver keys up, another Talk
> > > Group
> > > > lights up on my scanner.  Are you using a
> Radio
> > > Shack
> > > > Radio Scanner or a Uniden Radio Scanner. 
> Although
> > > I
> > > > do NOT have a Uniden Radio Scanner, I do know
> that
> > > > there is a special 7000 or 70000 setting to
> > > recieve
> > > > I-Calls or Private Calls.  I hpe that this
> helps.
> > > > --- Jeff Kenyon <at649 at tcnet.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Win a new Icom IC-756PROIII and help
> QSL/QTH.net
> > > >> Details at: http://mailman.qth.net/index.html
> > > >>
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Hi everyone, I am trying to monitor my ADA
> curb
> > > to
> > > >> curb service bus that
> > > >> takes me to the class that I am taking.  I
> have
> > > >> found out this morning that
> > > >> they are on the SMART transportation TRS
> which is
> > > a
> > > >> Motorola type II system,
> > > >> and from what I can gather and from what
> little
> > > >> monitoring I have done with
> > > >> this system the main talk groups are busy,
> but I
> > > >> have heard some private
> > > >> calls as well.  This morning I was talking
> with a
> > > >> driver and she said that
> > > >> the way that things are set up is that they
> can
> > > talk
> > > >> to dispatch and not
> > > >> from bus to bus, and for small buses this
> would
> > > be
> > > >> helpful, and I am
> > > >> assuming that they are using private calls,
> but I
> > > am
> > > >> wondering if there is a
> > > >> way of setting the system up so that they can
> use
> > > a
> > > >> regular talk group, but
> > > >> have it set up so that they can't talk unit
> to
> > > unit,
> > > >> but just unit to
> > > >> dispatch?  I looked through the list of talk
> > > groups
> 
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