[Vintage-Audio] Re: Help With Gear Specs, Please

[Duane Fischer, W8DBF]

Well Bob I did not use a Braille ruler, (yes they do make such things,
although I could not use one and be any more accurate than I already am!),
but it appeared to be six inches of cone. I wish it was a twelve.

If that little thing makes my James B. Lansing Century L-100 blush, then I
am Rudolph The Blind Reindeer with a blinking LASER beacon nose for
mobility! ----- Original Message -----
From: "wolfbob" <wolfbob at csnsys.com>
To: "Vintage home and professional audio equipment from 1975 back"
<vintage-audio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 12:05 AM
Subject: Re: [Vintage-Audio] Re: Help With Gear Specs, Please


> I am sorry...I looked at the 2002 that is up on ebay and got
> the idea that it had a 12 in. speaker. If it is the little
> guy, then it is good but not great. It is an Advent after
> all.
>
> WBob
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Duane Fischer, W8DBF" <dfischer at usol.com>
> To: "Vintage home and professional audio equipment from 1975
> back" <vintage-audio at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 10:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [Vintage-Audio] Re: Help With Gear Specs,
> Please
>
>
> > Hmmm. I see lots of twelve inch, but no six inch. These
> > Advent are not 8
> > inch, more like 6 inch. If they are 8 inch then I must be
> > measuring the
> > diamter incorrectly.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "wolfbob" <wolfbob at csnsys.com>
> > To: "Vintage home and professional audio equipment from
> > 1975 back"
> > <vintage-audio at mailman.qth.net>
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 9:48 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Vintage-Audio] Re: Help With Gear Specs,
> > Please
> >
> >
> >> No question a big heavy 15 inch sub will rattle the
> >> rafters
> >> and break windows, but it is only for movies and
> >> earthquakes, not for music. If you have problems getting
> >> your rump to fall asleep then just fire up that
> >> heavyweight
> >> and you will soon be as numb as if you were on a Harley.
> >>
> >> No question the JBLs have a very clean and well
> >> engineered
> >> lowend, but a bass reflex  just aint the same as a well
> >> engineered  acoustic. Kloss knew how to get acoustics to
> >> work, after graduating MIT he was first at AR, then  KLH
> >> and
> >> n in '67 he formed Advent and later Cambridge Sound
> >> Works.
> >>
> >> I am a lover of acoustic loaded Kloss speakers although
> >> in
> >> my office my main left and right speakers are 12 in.
> >> JBLs.
> >> But the front and rear center speakers are 12 in.
> >> Advents,
> >> the two side speakers are 8 in. KLHs and the left and
> >> right
> >> rear are 12 in. acoustic Wharfedales. only the JBLs are
> >> bass
> >> reflex. The computer has a 5.1 system by Cambridge Sound
> >> Works (all acoustic) so my office has 14 speakers, only
> >> the
> >> JBLs are ported.
> >>
> >> Back under my desk is a 12 in. down facing sub woofer
> >> that
> >> has 150 W amp of its own. It hasn't been on for a couple
> >> years.
> >>
> >> WBob
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Duane Fischer, W8DBF" <dfischer at usol.com>
> >> To: "Vintage home and professional audio equipment from
> >> 1975
> >> back" <vintage-audio at mailman.qth.net>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 6:23 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [Vintage-Audio] Re: Help With Gear Specs,
> >> Please
> >>
> >>
> >> > Yo Bob,
> >> >
> >> > Now you are my Mr. Audio, so go ahead and feel
> >> > flattered.
> >> > Now here is your
> >> > question of the day:
> >> >
> >> > How come nobody has ever heard of this gorgeous wood
> >> > end
> >> > table with the
> >> > fifteen inch bottom firing sub-woof thing in it? Was it
> >> > priced so high that
> >> > true audio devotees refused to buy it, as they wanted
> >> > sound, not furniture?
> >> > Did the product review suggest it should have had a
> >> > yellow
> >> > paint job and the
> >> > smell of citrus added to it? What about performance
> >> > specs,
> >> > power demands,
> >> > frequency response etc.?
> >> >
> >> > FYI: Any thing that makes my James B. Lansing Century
> >> > L-100 speakers blush,
> >> > I either can not afford or is some mighty fine
> >> > equipment!
> >> > Now I am in no way
> >> > stating, or inferring, that the Century L-100 speakers
> >> > are
> >> > the best.
> >> > However, I have yet to hear any eight inch speaker come
> >> > anywhere close to
> >> > the incredible frequency coverage of the James B.
> >> > Lansing
> >> > full range 8 inch
> >> > speakers I paid $36 each for in December 1964. No
> >> > cabinet.
> >> > Just plans for a
> >> > bass reflex enclosure. Which my late Father built from
> >> > 3/4
> >> > inch White Birch
> >> > plywood. Wow! One speaker sounded better than most
> >> > three-way systems I have
> >> > heard.
> >> >
> >> > Because I am now totally blind, I do listen more
> >> > closely
> >> > than the vast
> >> > majority of sighted people do. I think I am a pretty
> >> > fair
> >> > judge of clean,
> >> > accurate and ambient audio reproduction. I believe that
> >> > considering the
> >> > total weight, cabinet size and overall accurate
> >> > reproduction of audio from
> >> > 35-14000 Hz that the James B. Lansing speakers did an
> >> > excellent job. The ass
> >> > is among the most clean, sharp and mellow I have ever
> >> > heard. It runs in my
> >> > mind that one of you on this list commented about the
> >> > woofer that James B.
> >> > Lansing used was regarded as one of the best ever.
> >> >
> >> > I think much depends on what a particular person likes
> >> > to
> >> > hear. It colors
> >> > his/her evaluation of a speaker greatly. Those who like
> >> > wall shaking head
> >> > pounding bass will not like clean reproduction that
> >> > lacks
> >> > this. Those who
> >> > love cheap crystal shattering high frequency notes will
> >> > favor this over a
> >> > system with a nice mellow response over the commonly
> >> > 'heard' audio spectrum.
> >> > So I suppose bias is simply unavoidable.
> >> >
> >> > DBF
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "wolfbob" <wolfbob at csnsys.com>
> >> > To: "Vintage home and professional audio equipment from
> >> > 1975 back"
> >> > <vintage-audio at mailman.qth.net>
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 5:35 PM
> >> > Subject: Re: [Vintage-Audio] Re: Help With Gear Specs,
> >> > Please
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> The Pioneer CD player is no better than some $29
> >> >> thingy
> >> >> from
> >> >> walmart. It may work, but...
> >> >>
> >> >> The Advents will go down to 40-30Hz and do it so well
> >> >> that
> >> >> your JBLs will blush. There just isn't much
> >> >> interesting
> >> >> in
> >> >> music below 40 Hz anyway. remember that the JBLs are
> >> >> ported
> >> >> bass reflex and the Advents are acoustically loaded
> >> >> sealed
> >> >> boxes. Makes for very clean bass.
> >> >>
> >> >> WBob
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> >> From: "Duane Fischer, W8DBF" <dfischer at usol.com>
> >> >> To: "Vintage home and professional audio equipment
> >> >> from
> >> >> 1975
> >> >> back" <vintage-audio at mailman.qth.net>
> >> >> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 3:02 PM
> >> >> Subject: Re: [Vintage-Audio] Re: Help With Gear Specs,
> >> >> Please
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> > Hey Bob,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Good to hear from you direction!
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Why forget the CD player? Problems with this model?
> >> >> > Or?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > It is for my fourteen year old grandson, by the way.
> >> >> > DBF
> >> >> > already has two
> >> >> > high end single units by Sony and Yamaha!
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I am not a sub-woof woof fan either! A woofer is a
> >> >> > woofer!
> >> >> > I can control
> >> >> > what signal it receives by the crossover frequency.
> >> >> > If
> >> >> > it
> >> >> > will handle from
> >> >> > 200 Hz down to 20 Hz, and do it efficiently, why
> >> >> > would
> >> >> > I
> >> >> > need anything else?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Now I am running good speakers, not  some dinky
> >> >> > satellite
> >> >> > system thing that
> >> >> > is supposed to emulate the concert sound of a real
> >> >> > live
> >> >> > concert! Because
> >> >> > they use "four inch", sometimes a huge six inch,
> >> >> > 'woofer',
> >> >> > yea, they need
> >> >> > some help! I think the phrase is "bass response"!
> >> >> > Otherwise you get a Woof
> >> >> > that never made it to puberty and got a low voice!
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Duane W8DBF
> >> >> >
> >> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> >> > From: "wolfbob" <wolfbob at csnsys.com>
> >> >> > To: "Vintage home and professional audio equipment
> >> >> > from
> >> >> > 1975 back"
> >> >> > <vintage-audio at mailman.qth.net>
> >> >> > Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 11:06 AM
> >> >> > Subject: Re: [Vintage-Audio] Re: Help With Gear
> >> >> > Specs,
> >> >> > Please
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> Duane..
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Forget the CD player..the Yamaha is a very good
> >> >> >> receiver
> >> >> >> for
> >> >> >> a solid state of that era...not up to your Macs
> >> >> >> though...However, the Advents are well worth
> >> >> >> refoaming.
> >> >> >> These are some of the very best of the acoustic
> >> >> >> loaded
> >> >> >> speakers that Henry Kloss designed. I have a pair
> >> >> >> that
> >> >> >> I
> >> >> >> use
> >> >> >> for mid front and mid rear in my office and they
> >> >> >> are
> >> >> >> astoundingly flat and have a very clean bass. I
> >> >> >> don't
> >> >> >> believe in sub-woofers except for special effects,
> >> >> >> not
> >> >> >> music.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> WBob
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> >> >> From: "rick larson" <rick at mnbrewers.com>
> >> >> >> To: "Vintage home and professional audio equipment
> >> >> >> from
> >> >> >> 1975
> >> >> >> back" <vintage-audio at mailman.qth.net>
> >> >> >> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 12:33 AM
> >> >> >> Subject: [Vintage-Audio] Re: Help With Gear Specs,
> >> >> >> Please
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > Duane,
> >> >> >> > I didn't see any responses for your request and I
> >> >> >> > really
> >> >> >> > don't know much about these.  However, here are a
> >> >> >> > few
> >> >> >> > comments.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > I've read the Yamaha is pretty nice.  Great
> >> >> >> > tuner.
> >> >> >> > Some
> >> >> >> > like the STK power brick IC.  They are cheap to
> >> >> >> > replace
> >> >> >> > if
> >> >> >> > they go out.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > I have a pair of original Advent speakers.  I
> >> >> >> > reconed
> >> >> >> > them
> >> >> >> > for <$30.  Not familar with the 2002 model.
> >> >> >> > Refoaming
> >> >> >> > was
> >> >> >> > pretty easy but not sure if that is something you
> >> >> >> > can
> >> >> >> > do
> >> >> >> > or you would need to hire it out.  Too bad you
> >> >> >> > don't
> >> >> >> > live
> >> >> >> > in Minneapolis.  I'd refoam them for you.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > If it was me and I had a room that needed a
> >> >> >> > system,
> >> >> >> > I'd
> >> >> >> > use the Yamaha, refoam the Advents, might use the
> >> >> >> > sub
> >> >> >> > and
> >> >> >> > throw away the cd player.  However, your Scott
> >> >> >> > gear
> >> >> >> > is
> >> >> >> > lovely and would be my personal favorite.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > rick
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >>     Hi All,        As some of you know, my home
> >> >> >> >> was
> >> >> >> >> damaged by water getting into the attic and
> >> >> >> >> causing a sudden and very destructive water leak
> >> >> >> >> on
> >> >> >> >> top
> >> >> >> >> of my
> >> >> >> >> den/office/computer control room desk on
> >> >> >> >> September
> >> >> >> >> 28th.
> >> >> >> >> The contractor who did
> >> >> >> >> the repair work sent his supervisory guy out
> >> >> >> >> here
> >> >> >> >> to
> >> >> >> >> be
> >> >> >> >> sure the guys doing the
> >> >> >> >> work were doing it up to the contractor's high
> >> >> >> >> standards.
> >> >> >> >> Tony and I got to
> >> >> >> >> chatting when he saw some of my stereo gear.
> >> >> >> >> Some
> >> >> >> >> doctor had left behind some stereo gear when he
> >> >> >> >> sold
> >> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> >> house to Tony
> >> >> >> >> three years ago. Tony discovered it in the
> >> >> >> >> garage
> >> >> >> >> attic.
> >> >> >> >> He had no use for it
> >> >> >> >> and offered it to me. I accepted it "as is"
> >> >> >> >> I
> >> >> >> >> have
> >> >> >> >> no manuals and am not familiar with the speakers
> >> >> >> >> at
> >> >> >> >> all.
> >> >> >> >> I would very
> >> >> >> >> much appreciate your opinion as to the value,
> >> >> >> >> quality
> >> >> >> >> and
> >> >> >> >> cost of repairs Vs
> >> >> >> >> value of item. Thanks.       PIONEER MULTI PLAY
> >> >> >> >> COMPACT
> >> >> >> >> DISK PLAYER.  MODEL: PD/M510. APPEARS GOOD
> >> >> >> >> COSMETICALLY.
> >> >> >> >> BUT THE SIX CD HOLDER TRAY IS MISSING. IT SLIDES
> >> >> >> >> INTO
> >> >> >> >> AN
> >> >> >> >> OPENING WITH A SPRING
> >> >> >> >> LOADED DOOR. CAN I FIND ONE ANYWHERE? DOES NOT
> >> >> >> >> APPEAR
> >> >> >> >> THAT I CAN PLAY A SINGLE
> >> >> >> >> CD WITHOUT IT.
> >> >> >> >> AMPLIFIER/RECEIVER: YAMAHA NATURAL SOUND
> >> >> >> >> CR/1020.
> >> >> >> >> WOOD
> >> >> >> >> CABINET, WEIGHS ABOUT 40
> >> >> >> >> LBS, OUTPUTS FOR SPEAKERS A,B,C NO MENTION OF
> >> >> >> >> SURROUND
> >> >> >> >> SOUND THOUGH. HAS AM, FM
> >> >> >> >> AND FM STEREO. LOOKS BEAUTIFUL AND APPEARS FULLY
> >> >> >> >> FUNCTIONAL.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> BDS: BDSW15 15 INCH BOTTOM FIRING SUB WOOFER IN
> >> >> >> >> BEAUTIFUL
> >> >> >> >> WOOD 18 INCH SQUARE
> >> >> >> >> END TABLE. NO COVER OVER SPEAKER ON BOTTOM, FOAM
> >> >> >> >> SUSPENSION IS A LITTLE SOFT,
> >> >> >> >> BUT IT PLAYS WELL. THIS THING WEIGHS 45 LBS!
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> ADVENT: 2 WAY SPEAKERS. TWEETER WITH 12 INCH
> >> >> >> >> WOOFER.
> >> >> >> >> FOAM
> >> >> >> >> SUSPENSION IS GONE.
> >> >> >> >> MODEL: 2002  AB014073
> >> >> >> >> CABINETS ARE BEAUTIFUL, GRILLS ARE GOOD,
> >> >> >> >> ORIGINAL
> >> >> >> >> BOXES.
> >> >> >> >> THEY WILL HAVE TO BE
> >> >> >> >> RECONED. ARE THEY WORTH DOING?    I apologize
> >> >> >> >> for
> >> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> >> upper case, which is suggestive of a variety of
> >> >> >> >> negative
> >> >> >> >> things, so I am told. But I keep all of my notes
> >> >> >> >> in
> >> >> >> >> solid
> >> >> >> >> upper case because it
> >> >> >> >> is easier for me being totally blind to find
> >> >> >> >> material
> >> >> >> >> by
> >> >> >> >> searching without
> >> >> >> >> having to be concerned about 'case sensitivity'.
> >> >> >> >> Again,
> >> >> >> >> thank you for any assistance you may be able to
> >> >> >> >> provide.
> >> >> >> >> Duane W8DBF   dfischer at usol.com
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >
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