[Vintage-Audio] Re: Help With Gear Specs, Please

Thu Dec 1 01:58:38 EST 2005

Bob,

More later, the old blind dude has to get a couple hours of snore time.

I want an office like yours! How can you possible work in that anyhow? You
must really suffer!

DBF
----- Original Message -----
From: "wolfbob" <wolfbob at csnsys.com>
To: "Vintage home and professional audio equipment from 1975 back"
<vintage-audio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 9:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Vintage-Audio] Re: Help With Gear Specs, Please

> No question a big heavy 15 inch sub will rattle the rafters
> and break windows, but it is only for movies and
> earthquakes, not for music. If you have problems getting
> your rump to fall asleep then just fire up that heavyweight
> and you will soon be as numb as if you were on a Harley.
>
> No question the JBLs have a very clean and well engineered
> lowend, but a bass reflex  just aint the same as a well
> engineered  acoustic. Kloss knew how to get acoustics to
> work, after graduating MIT he was first at AR, then  KLH and
> n in '67 he formed Advent and later Cambridge Sound Works.
>
> I am a lover of acoustic loaded Kloss speakers although in
> my office my main left and right speakers are 12 in. JBLs.
> But the front and rear center speakers are 12 in. Advents,
> the two side speakers are 8 in. KLHs and the left and right
> rear are 12 in. acoustic Wharfedales. only the JBLs are bass
> reflex. The computer has a 5.1 system by Cambridge Sound
> Works (all acoustic) so my office has 14 speakers, only the
> JBLs are ported.
>
> Back under my desk is a 12 in. down facing sub woofer that
> has 150 W amp of its own. It hasn't been on for a couple
> years.
>
> WBob
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Duane Fischer, W8DBF" <dfischer at usol.com>
> To: "Vintage home and professional audio equipment from 1975
> back" <vintage-audio at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 6:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [Vintage-Audio] Re: Help With Gear Specs,
> Please
>
>
> > Yo Bob,
> >
> > Now you are my Mr. Audio, so go ahead and feel flattered.
> > Now here is your
> > question of the day:
> >
> > How come nobody has ever heard of this gorgeous wood end
> > table with the
> > fifteen inch bottom firing sub-woof thing in it? Was it
> > priced so high that
> > true audio devotees refused to buy it, as they wanted
> > sound, not furniture?
> > Did the product review suggest it should have had a yellow
> > paint job and the
> > smell of citrus added to it? What about performance specs,
> > power demands,
> > frequency response etc.?
> >
> > FYI: Any thing that makes my James B. Lansing Century
> > L-100 speakers blush,
> > I either can not afford or is some mighty fine equipment!
> > Now I am in no way
> > stating, or inferring, that the Century L-100 speakers are
> > the best.
> > However, I have yet to hear any eight inch speaker come
> > anywhere close to
> > the incredible frequency coverage of the James B. Lansing
> > full range 8 inch
> > speakers I paid $36 each for in December 1964. No cabinet.
> > Just plans for a
> > bass reflex enclosure. Which my late Father built from 3/4
> > inch White Birch
> > plywood. Wow! One speaker sounded better than most
> > three-way systems I have
> > heard.
> >
> > Because I am now totally blind, I do listen more closely
> > than the vast
> > majority of sighted people do. I think I am a pretty fair
> > judge of clean,
> > accurate and ambient audio reproduction. I believe that
> > considering the
> > total weight, cabinet size and overall accurate
> > reproduction of audio from
> > 35-14000 Hz that the James B. Lansing speakers did an
> > excellent job. The ass
> > is among the most clean, sharp and mellow I have ever
> > heard. It runs in my
> > mind that one of you on this list commented about the
> > woofer that James B.
> > Lansing used was regarded as one of the best ever.
> >
> > I think much depends on what a particular person likes to
> > hear. It colors
> > his/her evaluation of a speaker greatly. Those who like
> > wall shaking head
> > pounding bass will not like clean reproduction that lacks
> > this. Those who
> > love cheap crystal shattering high frequency notes will
> > favor this over a
> > system with a nice mellow response over the commonly
> > 'heard' audio spectrum.
> > So I suppose bias is simply unavoidable.
> >
> > DBF
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "wolfbob" <wolfbob at csnsys.com>
> > To: "Vintage home and professional audio equipment from
> > 1975 back"
> > <vintage-audio at mailman.qth.net>
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 5:35 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Vintage-Audio] Re: Help With Gear Specs,
> > Please
> >
> >
> >> The Pioneer CD player is no better than some $29 thingy
> >> from
> >> walmart. It may work, but...
> >>
> >> The Advents will go down to 40-30Hz and do it so well
> >> that
> >> your JBLs will blush. There just isn't much interesting
> >> in
> >> music below 40 Hz anyway. remember that the JBLs are
> >> ported
> >> bass reflex and the Advents are acoustically loaded
> >> sealed
> >> boxes. Makes for very clean bass.
> >>
> >> WBob
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Duane Fischer, W8DBF" <dfischer at usol.com>
> >> To: "Vintage home and professional audio equipment from
> >> 1975
> >> back" <vintage-audio at mailman.qth.net>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 3:02 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [Vintage-Audio] Re: Help With Gear Specs,
> >> Please
> >>
> >>
> >> > Hey Bob,
> >> >
> >> > Good to hear from you direction!
> >> >
> >> > Why forget the CD player? Problems with this model? Or?
> >> >
> >> > It is for my fourteen year old grandson, by the way.
> >> > DBF
> >> > already has two
> >> > high end single units by Sony and Yamaha!
> >> >
> >> > I am not a sub-woof woof fan either! A woofer is a
> >> > woofer!
> >> > I can control
> >> > what signal it receives by the crossover frequency. If
> >> > it
> >> > will handle from
> >> > 200 Hz down to 20 Hz, and do it efficiently, why would
> >> > I
> >> > need anything else?
> >> >
> >> > Now I am running good speakers, not  some dinky
> >> > satellite
> >> > system thing that
> >> > is supposed to emulate the concert sound of a real live
> >> > concert! Because
> >> > they use "four inch", sometimes a huge six inch,
> >> > 'woofer',
> >> > yea, they need
> >> > some help! I think the phrase is "bass response"!
> >> > Otherwise you get a Woof
> >> > that never made it to puberty and got a low voice!
> >> >
> >> > Duane W8DBF
> >> >
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "wolfbob" <wolfbob at csnsys.com>
> >> > To: "Vintage home and professional audio equipment from
> >> > 1975 back"
> >> > <vintage-audio at mailman.qth.net>
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 11:06 AM
> >> > Subject: Re: [Vintage-Audio] Re: Help With Gear Specs,
> >> > Please
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> Duane..
> >> >>
> >> >> Forget the CD player..the Yamaha is a very good
> >> >> receiver
> >> >> for
> >> >> a solid state of that era...not up to your Macs
> >> >> though...However, the Advents are well worth
> >> >> refoaming.
> >> >> These are some of the very best of the acoustic loaded
> >> >> speakers that Henry Kloss designed. I have a pair that
> >> >> I
> >> >> use
> >> >> for mid front and mid rear in my office and they are
> >> >> astoundingly flat and have a very clean bass. I don't
> >> >> believe in sub-woofers except for special effects, not
> >> >> music.
> >> >>
> >> >> WBob
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> >> From: "rick larson" <rick at mnbrewers.com>
> >> >> To: "Vintage home and professional audio equipment
> >> >> from
> >> >> 1975
> >> >> back" <vintage-audio at mailman.qth.net>
> >> >> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 12:33 AM
> >> >> Subject: [Vintage-Audio] Re: Help With Gear Specs,
> >> >> Please
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> > Duane,
> >> >> > I didn't see any responses for your request and I
> >> >> > really
> >> >> > don't know much about these.  However, here are a
> >> >> > few
> >> >> > comments.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I've read the Yamaha is pretty nice.  Great tuner.
> >> >> > Some
> >> >> > like the STK power brick IC.  They are cheap to
> >> >> > replace
> >> >> > if
> >> >> > they go out.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I have a pair of original Advent speakers.  I
> >> >> > reconed
> >> >> > them
> >> >> > for <$30.  Not familar with the 2002 model.
> >> >> > Refoaming
> >> >> > was
> >> >> > pretty easy but not sure if that is something you
> >> >> > can
> >> >> > do
> >> >> > or you would need to hire it out.  Too bad you don't
> >> >> > live
> >> >> > in Minneapolis.  I'd refoam them for you.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > If it was me and I had a room that needed a system,
> >> >> > I'd
> >> >> > use the Yamaha, refoam the Advents, might use the
> >> >> > sub
> >> >> > and
> >> >> > throw away the cd player.  However, your Scott gear
> >> >> > is
> >> >> > lovely and would be my personal favorite.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > rick
> >> >> >
> >> >> >>     Hi All,        As some of you know, my home was
> >> >> >> damaged by water getting into the attic and
> >> >> >> causing a sudden and very destructive water leak on
> >> >> >> top
> >> >> >> of my
> >> >> >> den/office/computer control room desk on September
> >> >> >> 28th.
> >> >> >> The contractor who did
> >> >> >> the repair work sent his supervisory guy out here
> >> >> >> to
> >> >> >> be
> >> >> >> sure the guys doing the
> >> >> >> work were doing it up to the contractor's high
> >> >> >> standards.
> >> >> >> Tony and I got to
> >> >> >> chatting when he saw some of my stereo gear.
> >> >> >> Some
> >> >> >> doctor had left behind some stereo gear when he
> >> >> >> sold
> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> house to Tony
> >> >> >> three years ago. Tony discovered it in the garage
> >> >> >> attic.
> >> >> >> He had no use for it
> >> >> >> and offered it to me. I accepted it "as is"
> >> >> >> I
> >> >> >> have
> >> >> >> no manuals and am not familiar with the speakers at
> >> >> >> all.
> >> >> >> I would very
> >> >> >> much appreciate your opinion as to the value,
> >> >> >> quality
> >> >> >> and
> >> >> >> cost of repairs Vs
> >> >> >> value of item. Thanks.       PIONEER MULTI PLAY
> >> >> >> COMPACT
> >> >> >> DISK PLAYER.  MODEL: PD/M510. APPEARS GOOD
> >> >> >> COSMETICALLY.
> >> >> >> BUT THE SIX CD HOLDER TRAY IS MISSING. IT SLIDES
> >> >> >> INTO
> >> >> >> AN
> >> >> >> OPENING WITH A SPRING
> >> >> >> LOADED DOOR. CAN I FIND ONE ANYWHERE? DOES NOT
> >> >> >> APPEAR
> >> >> >> THAT I CAN PLAY A SINGLE
> >> >> >> CD WITHOUT IT.
> >> >> >> AMPLIFIER/RECEIVER: YAMAHA NATURAL SOUND CR/1020.
> >> >> >> WOOD
> >> >> >> CABINET, WEIGHS ABOUT 40
> >> >> >> LBS, OUTPUTS FOR SPEAKERS A,B,C NO MENTION OF
> >> >> >> SURROUND
> >> >> >> SOUND THOUGH. HAS AM, FM
> >> >> >> AND FM STEREO. LOOKS BEAUTIFUL AND APPEARS FULLY
> >> >> >> FUNCTIONAL.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> BDS: BDSW15 15 INCH BOTTOM FIRING SUB WOOFER IN
> >> >> >> BEAUTIFUL
> >> >> >> WOOD 18 INCH SQUARE
> >> >> >> END TABLE. NO COVER OVER SPEAKER ON BOTTOM, FOAM
> >> >> >> SUSPENSION IS A LITTLE SOFT,
> >> >> >> BUT IT PLAYS WELL. THIS THING WEIGHS 45 LBS!
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> ADVENT: 2 WAY SPEAKERS. TWEETER WITH 12 INCH
> >> >> >> WOOFER.
> >> >> >> FOAM
> >> >> >> SUSPENSION IS GONE.
> >> >> >> MODEL: 2002  AB014073
> >> >> >> CABINETS ARE BEAUTIFUL, GRILLS ARE GOOD, ORIGINAL
> >> >> >> BOXES.
> >> >> >> THEY WILL HAVE TO BE
> >> >> >> RECONED. ARE THEY WORTH DOING?    I apologize for
> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> upper case, which is suggestive of a variety of
> >> >> >> negative
> >> >> >> things, so I am told. But I keep all of my notes in
> >> >> >> solid
> >> >> >> upper case because it
> >> >> >> is easier for me being totally blind to find
> >> >> >> material
> >> >> >> by
> >> >> >> searching without
> >> >> >> having to be concerned about 'case sensitivity'.
> >> >> >> Again,
> >> >> >> thank you for any assistance you may be able to
> >> >> >> provide.
> >> >> >> Duane W8DBF   dfischer at usol.com
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
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