[TrunkCom] need help with making a scanner purchase decision

[Jeff Kenyon]

Well, a lot of the police officers and people here in Rochester don't even think that we have any digital scanners now but will let you monitor the project 25 stuff now. I also have the same concerns about open sky or ProVoice. My understanding with open sky is that you can't even program the radio from Harris for open sky unless you know the IP details about the system. Interestingly enough, one agency in Michigan who is on the open sky Oakland County. They think that sometime in the future there will be a scanner that will allow people to monitor open sky oh I don't see it happening. When I first moved out here in 2008 they were still working on the open sky contract for the state of New York which has been canceled. When I first moved here, I did hear some open Skype data I need hundred megahertz but it is gone. For the most part, 800 MHz is dad other than Eastman Kodak. Whether they decide to encrypt things once they move is anyone's guess but I'm keeping my fingers crossed that it doesn't happen. Also, as I said before the cost of upgrading should be a concern. Monroe County and Rochester have some budget issues.

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On Jul 26, 2012, at 5:13 PM, "Sean Paul" <newsandtraffic at aol.com> wrote:

> To do just a bit of follow up on Dave's point here. When we in Chattanooga 
> TN went to a P25 system. We were told that it would be encrypted for most 
> operations. However, so far. Knock on wood. This hasn't happened. Only 1 or 
> 2 talk groups use encryption. The Police Departments SWAT Channel & a couple 
> others like it.
> My understanding is that encryption dramatically increases the cost of the 
> system on a per user bases. & also increases the cost of radios. So it seems 
> that most agencies are using it as limited as possible. I know myself. There 
> is much discussion on encryption. I personally am more worried about systems 
> such as Open Sky & things going more towards a VOIP type system. Such as 
> something like Zello or Heytel, etc. Or systems which will use cellular 
> towers or such than I am encryption in its present form on P25 systems.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dave" <afdltret at comcast.net>
> To: <trunkcom at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 16:26
> Subject: Re: [TrunkCom] need help with making a scanner purchase decision
> 
> 
>> Click on this site. It states Monroe County is supposed to be
>> operational in early 2013. It shows one site with all 700mhz frequencies
>> but no talk groups yet called "North Monroe County Simulcast"
>> Unfortunately I can not help answer your question about scanners that
>> work with screen reading software. About encryption almost every new
>> system is being delivered with that option, depending on the contract
>> involved. Usually encryption is determined by the agency's that use the
>> system once it becomes operational. Harris also promotes voice
>> transmissions that can not be monitored by any scanner. RR link claims
>> voice will be "common Apco 25 interface" which should be able to
>> monitor. My guess it will be sometime before this system is operational.
>> 
>> http://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?sid=7308
>> 
>> Dave M.
>> 
>> 
>> On 7/26/2012 10:08, Jeff Kenyon wrote:
>>> HI everyone, I just was checking on line and here in Rochester, and 
>>> Monroe County and the rest of the Finger Lakes they are constructing a 
>>> 700 MHz Project-25 trunking system.  It is being built by Harris, and my 
>>> current equipment does not track 700 MHz.
>>>     I guess my questions are is this new system going to be encrypted 
>>> and also, if it is not what scanner would be my best bet with regard to 
>>> software that will work with a screen reader such as JAWS?
>>>     Also, how far a long are they with building the system?
>>> 
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