[TrunkCom] while we are on the subject of encryption

[Jeff Kenyon]

That is too bad.  I'd like to see the faces of people in Florida and San
Antonio.  I don't live in these areas, but ProVoice and ESK in those
places is terrible.  Then I read some place that in Albequerque w with the
ProVoice stuff there the city and county doesn't comment on why it is
all unmonitorable.





On Tue, 7 Nov 2006, JETorres wrote:

> On Nov 7, 2006, at 5:47 AM, JERRY NONE wrote:
>
> > True.  But if everybody went with Provoice, well then
> > there would be Interop.  I know that scanner owners
> > wouldn't like that.
>
>
>
> The agencies/government should've thought or decided [against] all
> that long before we got past the "no return point" with P25. Never
> mind the irony of THEM being the ones still indirectly mandating P25
> requirements for everyone else. I've got a pretty good feeling that a
> mixture of "strong" salesmanship and some people with conflict of
> interests on the "inside" of certain agencies contributed
> significantly to the constant and increasing proliferation of
> proprietary systems which, again, can't mention enough the IRONIC
> state of it all.
>
> Besides, another advantage of P25 is NOT being proprietary which
> should in theory be a benefit to everyone involved. In the form of
> more competition and lower prices on equipment for agencies. P25 is
> not perfect by far but if everybody would've stayed involved and put
> their efforts towards it i.e. agencies, manufacturers, etc., then we
> could've had a lot more done in less time in terms of the P25
> 'standards' being farther along by now and more widespread
> acceptance, involvement, education and use of it.
>
> But M/A-Com (and others) had to get greedier and wanted a whole
> market to themselves, which up to some point can't blame them, seeing
> as Motorola got some sort of stronghold on the market as it is, even
> with P25.
>
> I would like to see the "faces" of the agencies that decided to go
> with OpenSky or ProVoice, etc., years down the road when or if M/A-
> Com decides to raise prices and/or indirectly dictate what they
> should do and get due to no other choices of manufacturers for their
> equipment i.e. being "locked in". That's when the tax-paying voters
> should seized the moment and you know how the rest should go....
>
> Yes, all this proprietary systems certainly do piss off scanner
> hobbyists BUT also a lot of other entities like the media, off-duty
> officers/firefighters, community volunteers, neighboring agencies,
> etc. Several of our own local fire departments have protested the
> possibility of our AK Troopers going to full time encryption, citing
> the loss of operational day-to-day capabilities/interops for the gain
> of a remote chance of keeping someone from using info they heard on
> the radio to their advantage. The hobbyists will get over not being
> able to monitor but the more important repercussions will have a more
> lasting if not permanent effect on the community as a whole. Oh well,
> as usual and unfortunately, we'll have to wait for another 9/11 or
> another Katrina in order to get something more done about all this....
>
> And in the end, if the thought of the public not being able to
> monitor them was even in the top three reasons for some agencies
> going to such proprietary systems, then I ask of all of you to give
> some in-depth thought (not paranoia) to that.....
>
>
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