[TrunkCom] partial encryption and if so how is this possible?

Jeff Kenyon at649 at tcnet.org
Fri Jan 7 09:55:26 EST 2005


Thanks, does anyone know if agencies do this kind of encryption
intentionally?





On Fri, 7 Jan 2005, Dewey wrote:

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> Hi Jeff, and Happy New Year,
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> I've seen this on our old VHF Saber's.  When in the clear mode, the
> portables will still receive and decrypt transmissions that were using the
> same encryption code.  In other words, if you and I had radios that had
> encryption codes to talk to each other, and you called me in secure mode,
> but my radio was set to open (unsecured) mode, I would still get your call.
> When I did, if I didn't pay any attention to the secure/open mode switch,
> and didn't look at the display to see the encrypted symbol, I would reply in
> open mode, and you would receive my signal.  To a scanner, your transmission
> would be encryption noise, and my transmission would be clear.
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> Hope this helps, take care,
> Dewey
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> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:trunkcom-bounces at mailman.qth.net]On Behalf Of Jeff Kenyon
> Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 09:36
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> Subject: [TrunkCom] partial encryption and if so how is this possible?
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> Good morning to all on the list.  I have noticed that when listening to
> conversations on Michigan.s digital 800 MHz system (MPSCS) there have been
> times where conversations are partially encrypted.  This morning I heard
> what sounded like some kind of road commission or something, but one side
> of the conversation was clear and the other was encrypted.  I.ve never
> known any system to do this, and the person who was clear wasn.t asking
> the person who was encrypted for a retransmit or anything.  As I said I
> only got to listen to this for a few minutes and couldn.t guess on what
> the agency was, but I found this to be strange.
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