[TheForge] todays shooting in school.

Paul Novorolsky crosspein at sbcglobal.net
Sat Dec 15 12:41:19 EST 2012


I'm going to "second" what Mike just said. I was considering posting a 
few similar points, and was hesitating because I don't think this is the 
place for it.

First of all, I really don't want our forum to be one of political 
debate. I do feel for the parents. One of my children was attending, and 
present at the Northern Illinois University shootings a few years ago. 
She was uninjured. I both empathize and sympathize with those close to 
this. So it is not that I don't care about this tragedy.

Secondly, I don't trust the politicians to address this. I consider 
myself a "centrist", and any meaningful legislation has been met with 
power struggles, and often to the advantage or profit of special 
interests. Just follow the money, either side of the aisle.

I chose not to site any examples, lest the scope of the discussion 
expand. I'll hope that we limit the discussion here in both scope and 
time. This was a horrible event. There will always be evil in the world. 
We can excise it as we encounter it, but the society we want to live in 
will result in some loss in the course of identifying that evil. We will 
either lose freedom or there will be events where some loss occurs 
because that freedom enjoyed by many was exploited by few.


I'll just stop here.

**paul

On 12/15/2012 9:54 AM, CGRAF wrote:
>
>
> On 12/15/2012 9:32 AM, Bruce . wrote:
>> I don't like hijacking this forum, but I find it one of the most
>> thoughtful and diverse body of voices I know, so simply don't know a
>> better place to voice these concerns.
>
> I can't say that I disagree with a thing you said.
>
> I will not trust the politicians with this.
> This problem requires an honest effort and I do not feel confident that
> they are the folks to find it.
>
> It is exactly forums such as this one,which has the diversity and
> problem solving fixation in which the solution needs to be hashed out.
>
> I would enjoy having a cracker barrel discussion on this topic. I think
> we could keep it "clean" (free of partisan politics and name calling).
> I am also confident that we can act as adults,respectful of others
> opinions,countering only with reasoned argument.
>
> This discussion would require a temporary major change in policy.
> I can think of only one other occasion of such,shortly after the attack
> on 9-11.
>
> We can all chip in an aye or nay,but the weight of making the decision
> falls to Dave,and I will gladly support what ever he decides.
>
> Mike Graf
>
>
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