[TheForge] bobcat OT:

[Andrew Vida]

peter fels wrote:

>> No. Calif. is somewhat better but still excessively hot.
> 
> Inland.

Davis and the whole San Joaquin is an oven in summer and a miserable 
crap hole in winters.  I really despised winter in Davis.  Nonstop rain 
for 5 months.  Might as well live in Seattle.

San Mateo and the valley can also be brutally hot during days, but there 
are few sights as pretty as the fog rolling over the mountains up in 
Pacifica.  I used to go Moonraker to have drinks and dinner just to 
watch the fog.  280 between San Carlos and SF has to be one of the 
prettiest drives anywhere in the USA.  I used to like it there, but 
living in LA kinda sucked after about 6 months.  It is a place for young 
people, methinks - going out and getting stupid is part and parcel of 
life in LA... at least it was for me.  We'd get all rowdy and then go 
hit Tommy's at midnight for double-doubles.  Horrible greasy burgers, 
but we loved them.  Or if we felt like a longer ride, Carney's on Sunset 
had really good burgers bathing in hot peppers.  And of course the real 
routine after being stoned was to hit The Pantry at 3AM and eat until we 
were ready to explode, which usually meant at least two full dinners 
each, sometimes even more.

CA was so different in those days.  I am not sure there is money enough 
to get me to go back.  Nothing is affordable, nothing is legal...  it is 
pretty well off the rails politically and fiscally, and SF is a city 
that has always had a profoundly bad vibe for me.  What was very 
surprising to me was how little silicon valley had changed after a 20 
year absence.  San Mateo was almost exactly the same - all my old 
hangouts were still there, which I found almost disturbingly weird.  The 
only real difference I saw was Mountain View, what with the several new 
buildings that went up for all the software companies.