[TheForge] bellows

[Andrew Vida]

IMO screws with grommets or washers or whatever those raised, 
countersunk things are called, are way superior to nailing in every way 
including maintenance.

Bruce Freeman wrote:
> Paul,
> 
> This, for instance:
> http://tinyurl.com/2d7rfqd
> 
> They also sell oak
> http://tinyurl.com/2dma8vh
> 
> The stuff I bought (to make a table) didn't resemble the photo -- it
> had more, thinner plys, but no skimpy paper-thing veneer over cheap
> softwood plywood.  There are some tiny voids at the edges, but not
> enough to prevent seating a nail or screw.  I still have the scrap
> piece.  Still, I'd pilot-drill, then glue in the nail, as a 3/4"
> plywood edge does not compare to solid 5/4" hardwood
> 
> Unfortunately, the prices they list are about twice what I remember
> paying two years ago!
> 
> Look in your "sent" folder for your lost email.
> 
> On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 10:56 AM, Paul N <crosspein at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> Bruce,
>> Can you define "hardwood plywood". These days, even hardwood veneered
>> plywoods are largely crap unless you go find an 11-ply at a specialty
>> lumber shop. (And the external veneers are literally paper thin)
>>
>> In any case, I'd expect the core layers to be pretty much whatever cheap
>> lumber they could find. Afterall, that's one of the purposes of the
>> material, to save on the cost by using less desirable species for the
>> interior. (The other advantage is that the plywood is more stable)
>>
>> side note: it seems the last post I made is still floating around out
>> there somewhere, and I didn't log a copy. If it doesn't show up soon,
>> I'll try to recall what I wrote.
>>
>> **paul
>>
>>
>> On 12/21/10 9:38 AM, Bruce Freeman wrote:
>>> Barrel hoops used to be made of greenwood.  Take wythies (watersprouts
>>> of willow, typically) and split them lengthwise.  Place flat against
>>> leather and nail on.
>>>
>>> BTW, anyone who thinks you can't nail into the edge of plywood hasn't
>>> tried it on hardwood plywood, which is a different animal from the
>>> softwood plywood used in construction.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 10:19 AM,<xlch58 at swbell.net>  wrote:
>>>> On 12/21/2010 8:11 AM, Bob Ehrenberger wrote:
>>>>> Paul,
>>>>>
>>>>> You may be able to bond a strip of solid wood to the edge of the plywood.
>>>>> Back when I used to do some wood work (before blacksmithing) if I made a set
>>>>> of book shelves I would cover the cut edges with solid wood to hide the fact
>>>>> that it was mainly plywood. Of course on a curved surface you would need to
>>>>> heat or steam the strips to get them to bend, that makes it a lot more work.
>>>>>
>>>>> Robert Ehrenberger
>>>>> Shelbyville, Mo.
>>>>> eforge at centurytel.net
>>>> Cut them real thin and stack them and glue them around the rim of the
>>>> plywood.  No steaming necessary.
>>>>
>>>> Charles
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