[TheForge] bellows

[Paul N]

Are you referring to "finish washers"? (google that term, you'll get 
lots of hits)

I have a bunch of those. I use them to hang cabinets without countersinking.


On 12/21/10 10:46 AM, Andrew Vida wrote:
> IMO screws with grommets or washers or whatever those raised,
> countersunk things are called, are way superior to nailing in every way
> including maintenance.
>
> Bruce Freeman wrote:
>> Paul,
>>
>> This, for instance:
>> http://tinyurl.com/2d7rfqd
>>
>> They also sell oak
>> http://tinyurl.com/2dma8vh
>>
>> The stuff I bought (to make a table) didn't resemble the photo -- it
>> had more, thinner plys, but no skimpy paper-thing veneer over cheap
>> softwood plywood.  There are some tiny voids at the edges, but not
>> enough to prevent seating a nail or screw.  I still have the scrap
>> piece.  Still, I'd pilot-drill, then glue in the nail, as a 3/4"
>> plywood edge does not compare to solid 5/4" hardwood
>>
>> Unfortunately, the prices they list are about twice what I remember
>> paying two years ago!
>>
>> Look in your "sent" folder for your lost email.
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 10:56 AM, Paul N<crosspein at sbcglobal.net>  wrote:
>>> Bruce,
>>> Can you define "hardwood plywood". These days, even hardwood veneered
>>> plywoods are largely crap unless you go find an 11-ply at a specialty
>>> lumber shop. (And the external veneers are literally paper thin)
>>>
>>> In any case, I'd expect the core layers to be pretty much whatever cheap
>>> lumber they could find. Afterall, that's one of the purposes of the
>>> material, to save on the cost by using less desirable species for the
>>> interior. (The other advantage is that the plywood is more stable)
>>>
>>> side note: it seems the last post I made is still floating around out
>>> there somewhere, and I didn't log a copy. If it doesn't show up soon,
>>> I'll try to recall what I wrote.
>>>
>>> **paul
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/21/10 9:38 AM, Bruce Freeman wrote:
>>>> Barrel hoops used to be made of greenwood.  Take wythies (watersprouts
>>>> of willow, typically) and split them lengthwise.  Place flat against
>>>> leather and nail on.
>>>>
>>>> BTW, anyone who thinks you can't nail into the edge of plywood hasn't
>>>> tried it on hardwood plywood, which is a different animal from the
>>>> softwood plywood used in construction.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 10:19 AM,<xlch58 at swbell.net>   wrote:
>>>>> On 12/21/2010 8:11 AM, Bob Ehrenberger wrote:
>>>>>> Paul,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You may be able to bond a strip of solid wood to the edge of the plywood.
>>>>>> Back when I used to do some wood work (before blacksmithing) if I made a set
>>>>>> of book shelves I would cover the cut edges with solid wood to hide the fact
>>>>>> that it was mainly plywood. Of course on a curved surface you would need to
>>>>>> heat or steam the strips to get them to bend, that makes it a lot more work.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Robert Ehrenberger
>>>>>> Shelbyville, Mo.
>>>>>> eforge at centurytel.net
>>>>> Cut them real thin and stack them and glue them around the rim of the
>>>>> plywood.  No steaming necessary.
>>>>>
>>>>> Charles
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