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[Peter Fels & Phoebe Palmer]

Andrew Vida wrote:
> 
> Peter Fels & Phoebe Palmer wrote:
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>>> 	CA has so changed since 76.  Couldn't pay me to live there anymore - 
>>> though it can be pleasant enough to visit.
>> It's a highly variable state with very different political and social 
>> climes in different locations.
> 
> 	I'm sure, but overall it is the land of the clueless where anything 
> even remotely political is concerned.  When I lived there Orange County 
> was the redneck capital of the universe.  No no mo'.
Orange county is the south. What do you expect?
> 
>>> 	Of course it was.  Does LE get any more corrupt than in the Golden State?
>> Sure...this was very minor corruption really..way nastier elsewhere.
> 
> 	LA cops are the worst except maybe for Chicago.  NYC are pretty bad 
> too, and of course NJ are near and dear to my heart.
Big citys..standard.
> 
>>    Those people have no souls - in fact they
>>> are not even human, all appearances to the contrary notwithstanding. 
>>> I'd call them reptiles, but the insult to reptiles would be unconscionable.
>> Bah...I disagree. Sure, some of them qualify, but most cops are OK and 
>> some are excellent human beings. They are not responsible for bad law 
>> and policies...that's a separate set of problems they take flack for.
> 
> 	I agree, but their actions smack of "I'm only following orders" - which 
> is one of the great cop outs of all time.
Cop-outs...tisk.
> 
>> They deal with the azzholes for us, day in and day out. I'm grateful for 
>> that.
> 
> 	I didn't ask them to take the job.
I did.
> 
>> It can't help but sour their outlook. One tends to become like the 
>> people you are around to some degree. They have to fight that tendency 
>> constantly.
> 
> 	Agreed.  One of the most miserable jobs on the planet,
Give them credit then.
  largely because
> of all the shyte law they are required to enforce.  Could be changed, 
> but I'd not hold my breath waiting.
That's not their fault...it's ours.
> 
>> Fact is, most of us need them.
> 
> 	Only because most of us have abdicated responsibility for our own lives 
> at the most fundamental levels.  They do a lot of good stuff, but the 
> bad that is done undoes all of that.
Nah...once again you are reducing it to a black and white issue..too 
simplistic.  pf
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