[TheForge] rust finish

[David Childress]

Permalac has a, I really do not know what you would call it, You
recoat the original coat every two or three years and it it puts back
what the weather and sun have removed or degraded.  I have never heard
of anything deteriorating if the regimine is kept up.

David Childress
Rocky Forge Blacksmith Guild

On 1/7/09, Wayne Ackman <stryker at vulcanpro.com> wrote:
> thanks Grant.  I was talking to a guy in town today about Permalac.
> As a matter of fact, he has 5 gallons he found in his storeroom, tho'
> he doesn't carry it anymore.  I told him to hold it for me, but I was
> wanting to find some more information on how well this would work.  By
> burnish, you mean just brush the hell out of it?  Do you need to apply
> a deactivating agent.  Also would Permalac work well with an airless
> sprayer?  Thanks for jumping in here, as my client is indicating that
> this is how he wants it to go.  He feels that this mottled rusted look
> is more "authentic".   :-)
>
> Wayne Ackman
>
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> On Jan 6, 2009, at 1:21 PM, Grant Marcoux wrote:
>
> > Folks:  Rust finishes can be maintained outdoors by coating with
> > Permalac.
> > I have had good luck by first rusting fully, then burnishing the
> > rusted
> > surface with a stiff nylon brush.  This produces a plum colored
> > finish.
> > Once the finish is burnished, after the desired depth is reached, then
> > Permalac it.  I first used the rusting technique on ML barrels and
> > it is
> > quite handsome.  Grant
> >
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> > [mailto:theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net]On Behalf Of Wayne Ackman
> > Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 6:17 PM
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> > Subject: Re: [TheForge] rust finish
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> >
> > That's what I think.  I'm going to have to dissuade my customer from
> > this.  Maybe I can come up with a faux finish that will look similar.
> > I have been experimenting the last few days and it looks like I can do
> > this with a painted finish and then dry brush it for the mottled
> > appearance.
> >
> > Wayne Ackman
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Jan 5, 2009, at 8:27 AM, Andrew Vida wrote:
> >
> >> Not well by my standards.  If it *requires* maintenance, then it is
> >> not
> >> a good outdoor finish.
> >>
> >> Wayne Ackman wrote:
> >>> I have used a rust finish several times. -- sandblast, wire brush,
> >>> etc,
> >>> then rusted and waxed.  Finally a clear coat of lacquer.  How well
> >>> would
> >>> this finish hold up outside?
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