[TheForge] OT frozen pipes
Peter Fels & Phoebe Palmer
artgawk at thegrid.net
Sat Jan 3 17:56:04 EST 2009
That's what i imagined..thank you sir..pf
Peter Hirst wrote:
> Its called a "neutralizing filter" and its basically a tankful of
> calcite, in the form of crushed limestone, or magnesium oxide. Has to be
> backflushed periodically, as its a mechanical filter, too, and picks up
> very fine sediment. It adds a little magnesium or calcium salt to the
> water, of course, but not in noticeable amounts. In fact, check the
> ingredients in a good mineral water and you will find one or both.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Fels & Phoebe Palmer"
> <artgawk at thegrid.net>
> To: "Blacksmithing List Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2009 5:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [TheForge] OT frozen pipes
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>
>>
>>
>> David E. Smucker wrote:
>>> Peter, I don't have a problem myself since I put in all plastic. I
>>> too am on well water and it is great. Only real issue in our area is
>>> that about 1 in seven wells come in with high iron -- we didn't have
>>> that problem.
>>>
>>> Last fall we reworked the spring that is on the other end of the
>>> property and that is great water too. It flows about 3 gpm and with
>>> a 750 gallon tank and 80 feet of head to the garden area I will be
>>> able to water this summer. Nice thing about the spring, is that if
>>> we lose power I can at least haul water to the house to keep us going.
>> sweet
>> Here on the coast we are at the bottom of table so water tends to come
>> with all sorts of bonus ingredients. Just to maximize our exposures i
>> have about 1000' 0f PVC, 1000' of galv and the house is plumed with
>> copper. We suck out inflow from a little waterfall and have about 140
>> PSI..static...lots of line friction so it drops off with much volume.
>> So far we haven't run dry..but it was mighty low till recently.
>> I wonder what sort of filter Peter H is using to neutralize acid
>> water?..pf
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> From: "Peter Hirst" <saltydog335 at aol.com>
>>> Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 11:09 PM
>>> To: "Blacksmithing List Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
>>> Subject: Re: [TheForge] OT frozen pipes
>>>
>>>> What's eating your copper is acidic water: can be treated with a
>>>> filter tank. A little pricey, but sometjhimes you can pick them up
>>>> cheap to free from people switching over to municipal water from a
>>>> well. except for slight acid (my copper is just beginning to
>>>> develop pinholes after 35 years) my well water is the best, and i
>>>> wouldn't trade it for anything. So I picked up a filter and will
>>>> replace the copper piece by piece with good solid used stuff as I
>>>> acquire it. It will last a lifetime with the filter, and since I
>>>> have so much exposed plumbing in the house, it is well worth it to me.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David E. Smucker"
>>>> <davesmucker at hotmail.com>
>>>> To: "Blacksmithing List Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
>>>> Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 7:19 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [TheForge] OT frozen pipes
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Andy,
>>>>>
>>>>> How does copper work in your area? I was always a fan of copper
>>>>> until we moved here to Brasstown, NC. With most of the well water
>>>>> in this area, it eats copper -- so any of the plastics are better.
>>>>> Dad had the same problem when they moved to Boulder, CO. Just
>>>>> check around before you go to copper. The well drillers here are
>>>>> the ones that told me to stay away from copper -- most of the
>>>>> hardware stores here don't even carry it any more. (and I had lots
>>>>> of copper fittings on hand when I built this house.)
>>>>>
>>>>> Dave
>>>>>
>>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>> From: "Andrew Vida" <osan at netlabs.net>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 11:21 AM
>>>>> To: "Bob Ehrenberger" <eforge at centurytel.net>; "Blacksmithing List
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>>>>> Subject: Re: [TheForge] OT frozen pipes
>>>>>
>>>>>> Sharkbite fittings are, as you say, pricey, but they really do
>>>>>> work. My plan for this house is to replace all the lousy PVC lines
>>>>>> with copper and sharkbite fittings. Those fittings will also work
>>>>>> with PVC and any other rigid or semi-rigid tubing. Very
>>>>>> ingeniously contrived, BTW.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bob Ehrenberger wrote:
>>>>>>> The Monday before Christmas we had the temps drop below zero with
>>>>>>> high winds out of the West. As a result, the pipes that run to
>>>>>>> our laundry froze and burst. That section of the house is just a
>>>>>>> crawl space, so instead of opening up the hatch to gain access
>>>>>>> which would have really flooded the space with cold air, I
>>>>>>> decided to disconnect and cap that section at the source. I got
>>>>>>> the Hot line capped ok, but the shut off valve did not stop the
>>>>>>> flow completly and let a steady drip through to the cold line.
>>>>>>> Because of the dampness, I couldn't get the joint to take solder,
>>>>>>> so I decided to use a compression fitting. At the local farm
>>>>>>> store they didn't have any compression fittings, but they had
>>>>>>> something called SharkBite. It was a bit pricey but what option
>>>>>>> did I have? So I got it. To my amazment, it worked as
>>>>>>> advertised, just clean the end and slide the fitting on and you
>>>>>>> are done. So if you have to make an emergency repair, the
>>>>>>> SharkBite connectors are a good choice.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Robert Ehrenberger
>>>>>>> Shelbyville, Mo.
>>>>>>> eforge at centurytel.net
>>>>>>>
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