[TheForge] OT frozen pipes

Peter Hirst saltydog335 at aol.com
Sat Jan 3 17:47:49 EST 2009 

Its called a "neutralizing filter" and its basically a tankful of calcite, 
in the form of crushed limestone, or magnesium oxide. Has to be backflushed 
periodically, as its a mechanical filter, too,  and picks up very fine 
sediment.   It adds a little magnesium or calcium salt to the water, of 
course,  but not in noticeable amounts.  In fact, check the ingredients in a 
good mineral water and you will find one or both.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter Fels & Phoebe Palmer" <artgawk at thegrid.net>
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Subject: Re: [TheForge] OT frozen pipes


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>
> David E. Smucker wrote:
>> Peter,  I don't have a problem myself since I put in all plastic.  I too 
>> am on well water and it is great.  Only real issue in our area is that 
>> about 1 in seven wells come in with high iron -- we didn't have that 
>> problem.
>>
>> Last fall we reworked the spring that is on the other end of the property 
>> and that is great water too.  It flows about 3 gpm and with a 750 gallon 
>> tank and 80 feet of head to the garden area I will be able to water this 
>> summer.  Nice thing about the spring, is that if we lose power I can at 
>> least haul water to the house to keep us going.
> sweet
> Here on the coast we are at the bottom of table so water tends to come 
> with all sorts of bonus ingredients. Just to maximize our exposures i have 
> about 1000' 0f PVC, 1000' of galv and the house is plumed with copper. We 
> suck out inflow from a little waterfall and have about 140 
> PSI..static...lots of line friction so it drops off with much volume.
> So far we haven't run dry..but it was mighty low till recently.
> I wonder what sort of filter Peter H is using to neutralize acid 
> water?..pf
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Peter Hirst" <saltydog335 at aol.com>
>> Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 11:09 PM
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>> Subject: Re: [TheForge] OT frozen pipes
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>>> What's eating your copper is acidic water:  can be treated with a filter 
>>> tank.  A little pricey, but sometjhimes you can pick them up cheap to 
>>> free from people switching over to municipal water from a well.  except 
>>> for slight acid (my copper is just beginning to develop pinholes after 
>>> 35 years) my well water is the best, and i wouldn't trade it for 
>>> anything. So I picked up a filter and will replace the copper piece by 
>>> piece with good solid used stuff as I acquire it.  It will last a 
>>> lifetime with the filter, and since I have so much exposed plumbing in 
>>> the house, it is well worth it to me.
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David E. Smucker" 
>>> <davesmucker at hotmail.com>
>>> To: "Blacksmithing List Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
>>> Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 7:19 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [TheForge] OT frozen pipes
>>>
>>>
>>>> Andy,
>>>>
>>>> How does copper work in your area?  I was always a fan of copper until 
>>>> we moved here to Brasstown, NC.  With most of the well water in this 
>>>> area, it eats copper -- so any of the plastics are better.  Dad had the 
>>>> same problem when they moved to Boulder, CO.  Just check around before 
>>>> you go to copper. The well drillers here are the ones that told me to 
>>>> stay away from copper --  most of the hardware stores here don't even 
>>>> carry it any more.  (and I had lots of copper fittings on hand when I 
>>>> built this house.)
>>>>
>>>> Dave
>>>>
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>>>> From: "Andrew Vida" <osan at netlabs.net>
>>>> Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 11:21 AM
>>>> To: "Bob Ehrenberger" <eforge at centurytel.net>; "Blacksmithing List 
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>>>> Subject: Re: [TheForge] OT frozen pipes
>>>>
>>>>> Sharkbite fittings are, as you say, pricey, but they really do work. 
>>>>> My plan for this house is to replace all the lousy PVC lines with 
>>>>> copper and sharkbite fittings.  Those fittings will also work with PVC 
>>>>> and any other rigid or semi-rigid tubing.  Very ingeniously contrived, 
>>>>> BTW.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bob Ehrenberger wrote:
>>>>>> The Monday before Christmas we had the temps drop below zero with 
>>>>>> high winds out of the West.  As a result, the pipes that run to our 
>>>>>> laundry froze and burst.  That section of the house is just a crawl 
>>>>>> space, so instead of opening up the hatch to gain access which would 
>>>>>> have really flooded the space with cold air, I decided to disconnect 
>>>>>> and cap that section at the source.  I got the Hot line capped ok, 
>>>>>> but the shut off valve did not stop the flow completly and let a 
>>>>>> steady drip through to the cold line. Because of the dampness, I 
>>>>>> couldn't get the joint to take solder, so I decided to use a 
>>>>>> compression fitting.  At the local farm store they didn't have any 
>>>>>> compression fittings, but they had something called SharkBite. It was 
>>>>>> a bit pricey but what option did I have?  So I got it.  To my 
>>>>>> amazment, it worked as advertised, just clean the end and slide the 
>>>>>> fitting on and you are done. So if you have to make an emergency 
>>>>>> repair, the SharkBite connectors are a good choice.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Robert Ehrenberger
>>>>>> Shelbyville, Mo.
>>>>>> eforge at centurytel.net
>>>>>>
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