[TheForge] OT frozen pipes

Peter Hirst saltydog335 at aol.com
Sat Jan 3 17:36:12 EST 2009 

Dave:  that's some spring.  How does it test?  I ahve two wells about 100 
feet apart, driven 20 years apart.  The shallow one, about 30 feet is 
slightly acid and iron-free.  The deeper one, about 85 feet is full clear 
iron and stains everything .. Its irrigation only now.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David E. Smucker" <davesmucker at hotmail.com>
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> Peter,  I don't have a problem myself since I put in all plastic.  I too 
> am on well water and it is great.  Only real issue in our area is that 
> about 1 in seven wells come in with high iron -- we didn't have that 
> problem.
>
> Last fall we reworked the spring that is on the other end of the property 
> and that is great water too.  It flows about 3 gpm and with a 750 gallon 
> tank and 80 feet of head to the garden area I will be able to water this 
> summer.  Nice thing about the spring, is that if we lose power I can at 
> least haul water to the house to keep us going.
>
> Dave
>
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> From: "Peter Hirst" <saltydog335 at aol.com>
> Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 11:09 PM
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>> What's eating your copper is acidic water:  can be treated with a filter 
>> tank.  A little pricey, but sometjhimes you can pick them up cheap to 
>> free from people switching over to municipal water from a well.  except 
>> for slight acid (my copper is just beginning to develop pinholes after 35 
>> years) my well water is the best, and i wouldn't trade it for anything. 
>> So I picked up a filter and will replace the copper piece by piece with 
>> good solid used stuff as I acquire it.  It will last a lifetime with the 
>> filter, and since I have so much exposed plumbing in the house, it is 
>> well worth it to me.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "David E. Smucker" <davesmucker at hotmail.com>
>> To: "Blacksmithing List Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
>> Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 7:19 PM
>> Subject: Re: [TheForge] OT frozen pipes
>>
>>
>>> Andy,
>>>
>>> How does copper work in your area?  I was always a fan of copper until 
>>> we moved here to Brasstown, NC.  With most of the well water in this 
>>> area, it eats copper -- so any of the plastics are better.  Dad had the 
>>> same problem when they moved to Boulder, CO.  Just check around before 
>>> you go to copper. The well drillers here are the ones that told me to 
>>> stay away from copper --  most of the hardware stores here don't even 
>>> carry it any more.  (and I had lots of copper fittings on hand when I 
>>> built this house.)
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
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>>> From: "Andrew Vida" <osan at netlabs.net>
>>> Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 11:21 AM
>>> To: "Bob Ehrenberger" <eforge at centurytel.net>; "Blacksmithing List 
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>>> Subject: Re: [TheForge] OT frozen pipes
>>>
>>>> Sharkbite fittings are, as you say, pricey, but they really do work. 
>>>> My plan for this house is to replace all the lousy PVC lines with 
>>>> copper and sharkbite fittings.  Those fittings will also work with PVC 
>>>> and any other rigid or semi-rigid tubing.  Very ingeniously contrived, 
>>>> BTW.
>>>>
>>>> Bob Ehrenberger wrote:
>>>>> The Monday before Christmas we had the temps drop below zero with high 
>>>>> winds out of the West.  As a result, the pipes that run to our laundry 
>>>>> froze and burst.  That section of the house is just a crawl space, so 
>>>>> instead of opening up the hatch to gain access which would have really 
>>>>> flooded the space with cold air, I decided to disconnect and cap that 
>>>>> section at the source.  I got the Hot line capped ok, but the shut off 
>>>>> valve did not stop the flow completly and let a steady drip through to 
>>>>> the cold line. Because of the dampness, I couldn't get the joint to 
>>>>> take solder, so I decided to use a compression fitting.  At the local 
>>>>> farm store they didn't have any compression fittings, but they had 
>>>>> something called SharkBite. It was a bit pricey but what option did I 
>>>>> have?  So I got it.  To my amazment, it worked as advertised, just 
>>>>> clean the end and slide the fitting on and you are done. So if you 
>>>>> have to make an emergency repair, the SharkBite connectors are a good 
>>>>> choice.
>>>>>
>>>>> Robert Ehrenberger
>>>>> Shelbyville, Mo.
>>>>> eforge at centurytel.net
>>>>>
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