[TheForge] OT frozen pipes and the opposite
Peter Fels & Phoebe Palmer
artgawk at thegrid.net
Sat Jan 3 17:37:55 EST 2009
A related story.
The neighbor property was bought by the conservancy and they were
tearing down the house. A crew was burning some of the wreckage and
somehow the flames snuck under the deck and subsequently under the
house. They'd thoughtfully already torn up the water line.
They were sweating, but doing OK getting it under control until the fire
made it to the plastic plumbing. The ABS especially ,was very difficult
to put out and the fire nearly got away from them.
We have screened foundation venting and access openings for the house
crawl space. We call them " burning bunny doors" because many places
have burned, during brush fires ,when a flaming, panicked animal dives
under a house seeking refuge...pf
David E. Smucker wrote:
> Peter, I don't have a problem myself since I put in all plastic. I too
> am on well water and it is great. Only real issue in our area is that
> about 1 in seven wells come in with high iron -- we didn't have that
> problem.
>
> Last fall we reworked the spring that is on the other end of the
> property and that is great water too. It flows about 3 gpm and with a
> 750 gallon tank and 80 feet of head to the garden area I will be able to
> water this summer. Nice thing about the spring, is that if we lose
> power I can at least haul water to the house to keep us going.
>
> Dave
>
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> From: "Peter Hirst" <saltydog335 at aol.com>
> Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 11:09 PM
> To: "Blacksmithing List Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [TheForge] OT frozen pipes
>
>> What's eating your copper is acidic water: can be treated with a
>> filter tank. A little pricey, but sometjhimes you can pick them up
>> cheap to free from people switching over to municipal water from a
>> well. except for slight acid (my copper is just beginning to develop
>> pinholes after 35 years) my well water is the best, and i wouldn't
>> trade it for anything. So I picked up a filter and will replace the
>> copper piece by piece with good solid used stuff as I acquire it. It
>> will last a lifetime with the filter, and since I have so much exposed
>> plumbing in the house, it is well worth it to me.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David E. Smucker"
>> <davesmucker at hotmail.com>
>> To: "Blacksmithing List Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
>> Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 7:19 PM
>> Subject: Re: [TheForge] OT frozen pipes
>>
>>
>>> Andy,
>>>
>>> How does copper work in your area? I was always a fan of copper
>>> until we moved here to Brasstown, NC. With most of the well water in
>>> this area, it eats copper -- so any of the plastics are better. Dad
>>> had the same problem when they moved to Boulder, CO. Just check
>>> around before you go to copper. The well drillers here are the ones
>>> that told me to stay away from copper -- most of the hardware stores
>>> here don't even carry it any more. (and I had lots of copper
>>> fittings on hand when I built this house.)
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> From: "Andrew Vida" <osan at netlabs.net>
>>> Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 11:21 AM
>>> To: "Bob Ehrenberger" <eforge at centurytel.net>; "Blacksmithing List
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>>> Subject: Re: [TheForge] OT frozen pipes
>>>
>>>> Sharkbite fittings are, as you say, pricey, but they really do
>>>> work. My plan for this house is to replace all the lousy PVC lines
>>>> with copper and sharkbite fittings. Those fittings will also work
>>>> with PVC and any other rigid or semi-rigid tubing. Very ingeniously
>>>> contrived, BTW.
>>>>
>>>> Bob Ehrenberger wrote:
>>>>> The Monday before Christmas we had the temps drop below zero with
>>>>> high winds out of the West. As a result, the pipes that run to our
>>>>> laundry froze and burst. That section of the house is just a crawl
>>>>> space, so instead of opening up the hatch to gain access which
>>>>> would have really flooded the space with cold air, I decided to
>>>>> disconnect and cap that section at the source. I got the Hot line
>>>>> capped ok, but the shut off valve did not stop the flow completly
>>>>> and let a steady drip through to the cold line. Because of the
>>>>> dampness, I couldn't get the joint to take solder, so I decided to
>>>>> use a compression fitting. At the local farm store they didn't
>>>>> have any compression fittings, but they had something called
>>>>> SharkBite. It was a bit pricey but what option did I have? So I
>>>>> got it. To my amazment, it worked as advertised, just clean the
>>>>> end and slide the fitting on and you are done. So if you have to
>>>>> make an emergency repair, the SharkBite connectors are a good choice.
>>>>>
>>>>> Robert Ehrenberger
>>>>> Shelbyville, Mo.
>>>>> eforge at centurytel.net
>>>>>
>>>>>
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