[TheForge] new shed design and other ramblings

[Chuck Robinson]

Hey Terry,
If you decide on running with the engine option you might want to install 
the pre luber system on all your engines:
http://www.autoenginelube.com/.
Unless you run your engines continuously these units reduce wear and down 
time.
Chuck

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "terry l. ridder" <terrylr at blauedonau.com>
To: "Blacksmithing List Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 11:57 PM
Subject: Re: [TheForge] new shed design and other ramblings


> hello bruce;
>
> On Wed, 15 Apr 2009, Bruce Freeman wrote:
>
>> Terry,
>> I'm picking up on the 3-phase power requirement.
>> You use an engine to generate power which you then use to power motors.
>> Very convenient, but not efficient.
>>
>
> the generator is a spare from one of the ships. been a spare for at
> least 10 years. looks like the day it came out of the factory. was
> protected by layers of grease and linen cloth. took a while to get it
> cleaned up.
>
>>
>> How about a modification of the old line-shaft idea.  Run an engine
>> and power the tools more-or-less directly from it.  I know this
>> conjures up visions of 4" iron shafts and bearings, and big flat-belt
>> pulleys everywhere, but that was only one implementation of the idea.
>>
>
> this is similar to my other idea. hydraulic motors driving basically
> pto's. i have two tractors with cat 1 hitches and 540 rpm ptos. i like
> the ability to swap out different implements that use the tractor's pto
> to provide power. so far i have a 3pt hitch post hole digger, a reverse
> rotation tiller, a finishing mower. i am working on a boom crane for the
> 3pt hitch. the same could be done in the shop. why should everything
> have its own electric motor or diesel/gas/propane/natural gas/alcohol
> engine when they are able to share a single power plant or perhaps
> several power plants. the pto with drive shafts is my current idea.
> still working on the design and layout. this is not set in stone. this
> idea may or may not be implemented. time will tell.
>
>>
>> You could use scrap driveshafts from trucks or cars, and use the
>> differentials as variable-speed output points.
>> Just brainstorming here.
>> Best of luck.
>>
>
> thank you for the ideas and the wishes.
>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 5:52 PM, terry l. ridder <terrylr at blauedonau.com> 
>> wrote:
>>> hello;
>>>
>>> i am attempting to build an environmentally friendly shop. i would like
>>> to keep the carbon footprint for the shop as small as possible. i am
>>> trying to use recycled materials in building the shed to being with.
>>>
>>> i am looking at either producing all the 3-phase electrical power that i
>>> would need for the shop using a marine diesel 3-phase 240 volt generator
>>> or cut back on power requirements and produce the electricity using
>>> solar panels on the shed roof and a wind turbine. i have the marine
>>> diesel all ready i would have to purchase the solar panels and wind
>>> turbine. i have not reached a final decision on the electrical system.
>>>
>>> i would like to have the new shed off grid if at all possible. that way
>>> i am able to control the cost of producing the electricity for the shed.
>>> i have looked at the commonwealth edison offer and it is just loaded
>>> with fees and charges. there is the metering charge, distribution
>>> facilities charge, transmission services charge, electricity supply
>>> charge, purchased electricity adjustment charge, environmental cost
>>> recovery adjustment, energy efficiency programs charge, etc. there is
>>> even a charge is i do not use the 3-phase equipment often enough.
>>>
>>> if i include the cost of the equipment to produce the 3-phase electrical
>>> power it is clear that i would not break even for many years.
>>>
>>> i am looking at putting radiant heat in the concrete portion of the new
>>> shed floor. the heating system will be a wood/coal boiler/stove. i have
>>> not decided on just how the new shed will be cooled or even if it will
>>> be cooled. i may go with the new generation of spot coolers to cool the
>>> location of the shed where creature comforts are required.
>>>
>>> i have looked at the ground water heating and cooling systems but the
>>> requirement for using a double walled heat exchanger is a killer. i can
>>> understand the need to protect the ground water from contamination put
>>> there are other ways to do that other than using a double wall heat
>>> exchanger. a double walled heat exchanger is twice as large as a single
>>> wall heat exchanger.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> terry l. ridder ><>
>>
>
> -- 
> terry l. ridder ><>
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