[TheForge] new shed design and other ramblings

Peter Fels & Phoebe Palmer artgawk at thegrid.net
Wed Apr 15 02:49:40 EDT 2009


With the U joints and the differentials with axles and individual 
brakes, an over head system could transfer your rotary power where ever 
you desired.
Bruce's idea promises to be a lot of junk fun.
Be fun to do a traditional water wheel powered smithy with junkyard 
components too...that could be wind as well i suppose....or
Water is pumped to uphill storage by the wind and then used via the 
waterwheel to run the smithy.  Or....grin...
All sorta leads to a junk-punk-green power generating style.  pf

Bruce Freeman wrote:
> Terry,
> I'm picking up on the 3-phase power requirement.
> You use an engine to generate power which you then use to power motors.
> Very convenient, but not efficient.
> How about a modification of the old line-shaft idea.  Run an engine
> and power the tools more-or-less directly from it.  I know this
> conjures up visions of 4" iron shafts and bearings, and big flat-belt
> pulleys everywhere, but that was only one implementation of the idea.
> You could use scrap driveshafts from trucks or cars, and use the
> differentials as variable-speed output points.
> Just brainstorming here.
> Best of luck.
> 
> On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 5:52 PM, terry l. ridder <terrylr at blauedonau.com> wrote:
>> hello;
>>
>> i am attempting to build an environmentally friendly shop. i would like
>> to keep the carbon footprint for the shop as small as possible. i am
>> trying to use recycled materials in building the shed to being with.
>>
>> i am looking at either producing all the 3-phase electrical power that i
>> would need for the shop using a marine diesel 3-phase 240 volt generator
>> or cut back on power requirements and produce the electricity using
>> solar panels on the shed roof and a wind turbine. i have the marine
>> diesel all ready i would have to purchase the solar panels and wind
>> turbine. i have not reached a final decision on the electrical system.
>>
>> i would like to have the new shed off grid if at all possible. that way
>> i am able to control the cost of producing the electricity for the shed.
>> i have looked at the commonwealth edison offer and it is just loaded
>> with fees and charges. there is the metering charge, distribution
>> facilities charge, transmission services charge, electricity supply
>> charge, purchased electricity adjustment charge, environmental cost
>> recovery adjustment, energy efficiency programs charge, etc. there is
>> even a charge is i do not use the 3-phase equipment often enough.
>>
>> if i include the cost of the equipment to produce the 3-phase electrical
>> power it is clear that i would not break even for many years.
>>
>> i am looking at putting radiant heat in the concrete portion of the new
>> shed floor. the heating system will be a wood/coal boiler/stove. i have
>> not decided on just how the new shed will be cooled or even if it will
>> be cooled. i may go with the new generation of spot coolers to cool the
>> location of the shed where creature comforts are required.
>>
>> i have looked at the ground water heating and cooling systems but the
>> requirement for using a double walled heat exchanger is a killer. i can
>> understand the need to protect the ground water from contamination put
>> there are other ways to do that other than using a double wall heat
>> exchanger. a double walled heat exchanger is twice as large as a single
>> wall heat exchanger.
>>
>>
>> --
>> terry l. ridder ><>
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