[TheForge] Dust/fumes mask

Fri Jan 11 07:28:54 EST 2008

Yeah, as I recall, for sea urchins, too, with a wet suit supplied with hot 
water from a gas household gas heater.  We put a lotta bad stuff in our 
lungs in California in the 60's.  (My sculptor friend was in Claremont at 
the time)  I don't know about the compressors, but the key word here is 
"hooka".  I'm sure there was a funky filter system in those, sisnce that 
component was designed for diving.  So it took years instead of minutes.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter Fels and Phoebe Palmer" <artgawk at thegrid.net>
To: "Craig Schaefer" <craig.schaefer at verizon.net>; "Sponsored by ABANA" 
<theforge at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 12:39 AM
Subject: Re: [TheForge] Dust/fumes mask


> Awww gee...during the 60s ,guys would rig up a skiff with a funky gas 
> powered compressor made for spray painting and a second hand hooka rig and 
> dive for abalonie off Santa Barbra...there were at least a dozen similar 
> operations  and they survived, mostly...pf
>
> -----Original Message-----
>>From: Craig Schaefer <craig.schaefer at verizon.net>
>>Sent: Jan 10, 2008 6:07 PM
>>To: Sponsored by ABANA <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
>>Subject: Re: [TheForge] Dust/fumes mask
>>
>>It would work, but it would be far cheaper and easier to buy a pre-made
>>breathing system designed for autobody repair.
>>
>>CraigS
>>Gresham, OR
>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>From: "Tod Estes" <testes at medicine.nodak.edu>
>>To: "Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
>>Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 6:04 PM
>>Subject: Re: [TheForge] Dust/fumes mask
>>
>>
>>>I agree, if you went with a compressed air source you may want to 
>>>consider
>>>a
>>> hooka type diving set-up. That would allow you safe compressed air.
>>> I wonder, if you could take a forge blower, electric driven, make a 
>>> filter
>>> box
>>> to filter incomming air, ducted to a hose connected to a helmet? Would
>>> that
>>> work?
>>> Quoting Peter Hirst <saltydog335 at aol.com>:
>>>
>>>> Don't even SUGGEST  using an ordinary air compressor or any rig that
>>>> incorporates one for breathable air supply, whether SCBA or otherwise.
>>>> The
>>>> lube oil atomizes, coats the lungs and you suffocate in  minutes or
>>>> seconds.
>>>> I once knew  a sculptor in Southern California  who was all set to use
>>>> such
>>>> a rig to do a piece involving full body immersion, when he just chanced
>>>> to
>>>> run into a NASA engineer at a cocktail party, of all places.  The
>>>> engineer
>>>> saved his life with this little piece of information.  Could have gone
>>>> the
>>>> other way.
>>>>
>>>> pgh
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Craig Schaefer" <craig.schaefer at verizon.net>
>>>> To: "Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 10:51 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [TheForge] Dust/fumes mask
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > Check out a couple of options for breathable air on
>>>> > 'autobodystore.com'.
>>>> > They aren't expensive when considering health and buying replaceable
>>>> > cartridges for a mask.   You could adapt the hose to a welding 
>>>> > helmet.
>>>> > The key word in Bruce's response is 'breathable' compressed air.
>>>> > Without
>>>> > expensive filters, you don't be breathable air out of an ordinary
>>>> > compressor.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > CraigS
>>>> > Gresham, OR
>>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>>> > From: "Bruce Freeman" <freemab222 at yahoo.com>
>>>> > To: "Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
>>>> > Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 9:01 PM
>>>> > Subject: Re: [TheForge] Dust/fumes mask
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >> Don,
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Have you considered rigging your own "supplied air"
>>>> >> mask?  What it would entail is bringing some flexible
>>>> >> hose from a remote (outside?) blower to your mask.
>>>> >> Obviously, this is not real convenient if you have to
>>>> >> move around a lot while welding, but if you are
>>>> >> working in a fixed position, it should not be much
>>>> >> bother.  (You can minimize the bother by fastening the
>>>> >> hose to your belt, so that it doesn't pull at the
>>>> >> mask.)
>>>> >>
>>>> >> If you are moving around, you could use breathable
>>>> >> compressed air (from a cylinder, unless you have an
>>>> >> appropriate pump), and bring it up to the mask in a
>>>> >> small diameter, "high pressure" hose that wouldn't
>>>> >> restrict movement so much.  Then at the mask (or belt)
>>>> >> you run it through a restrictor (a crushed tube works
>>>> >> well against a fixed high pressure head) to give low
>>>> >> pressure, high volume.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Bruce
>>>> >> NJ
>>>> >>
>>>> >> --- PlumDon at aol.com wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>> Looking for a bit of advice.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Having some  increasing respiratory problems and
>>>> >>> need a dust/fumes mask that
>>>> >>> I can put an  electronic welding helmet over. Any
>>>> >>> ideas much appreciated. What
>>>> >>> I have wont  fit.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> I dont think I have been as much concerned about
>>>> >>> dust and fumes as I  should
>>>> >>> have been. Perhaps as we all should be.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Thanks for any  suggestions.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Don Plummer
>>>> >>> Plummer Design Works
>>>> >>> 392 Hallman Mill  Road
>>>> >>> Phoenixville, PA 19460
>>>> >>> 610-495-5058
>>>> >>> Plumdon at aol.com
>>>> >>>
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