[TheForge] Dust/fumes mask

Sun Jan 13 18:44:46 EST 2008

Compressors made for painting were probably diaphragm
pumps.  Not super high pressure, but used no oil in
the air line. (You don't want oil in the paint.)
So these guys either knew what they were doing, or
lucked out.
Bruce
NJ
--- Peter Fels and Phoebe Palmer <artgawk at thegrid.net>
wrote:

> Awww gee...during the 60s ,guys would rig up a skiff
> with a funky gas powered compressor made for spray
> painting and a second hand hooka rig and dive for
> abalonie off Santa Barbra...there were at least a
> dozen similar operations  and they survived,
> mostly...pf
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: Craig Schaefer <craig.schaefer at verizon.net>
> >Sent: Jan 10, 2008 6:07 PM
> >To: Sponsored by ABANA <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
> >Subject: Re: [TheForge] Dust/fumes mask
> >
> >It would work, but it would be far cheaper and
> easier to buy a pre-made 
> >breathing system designed for autobody repair.
> >
> >CraigS
> >Gresham, OR
> >----- Original Message ----- 
> >From: "Tod Estes" <testes at medicine.nodak.edu>
> >To: "Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
> >Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 6:04 PM
> >Subject: Re: [TheForge] Dust/fumes mask
> >
> >
> >>I agree, if you went with a compressed air source
> you may want to consider 
> >>a
> >> hooka type diving set-up. That would allow you
> safe compressed air.
> >> I wonder, if you could take a forge blower,
> electric driven, make a filter 
> >> box
> >> to filter incomming air, ducted to a hose
> connected to a helmet? Would 
> >> that
> >> work?
> >> Quoting Peter Hirst <saltydog335 at aol.com>:
> >>
> >>> Don't even SUGGEST  using an ordinary air
> compressor or any rig that
> >>> incorporates one for breathable air supply,
> whether SCBA or otherwise. 
> >>> The
> >>> lube oil atomizes, coats the lungs and you
> suffocate in  minutes or 
> >>> seconds.
> >>> I once knew  a sculptor in Southern California 
> who was all set to use 
> >>> such
> >>> a rig to do a piece involving full body
> immersion, when he just chanced 
> >>> to
> >>> run into a NASA engineer at a cocktail party, of
> all places.  The 
> >>> engineer
> >>> saved his life with this little piece of
> information.  Could have gone 
> >>> the
> >>> other way.
> >>>
> >>> pgh
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "Craig Schaefer"
> <craig.schaefer at verizon.net>
> >>> To: "Sponsored by ABANA"
> <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
> >>> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 10:51 AM
> >>> Subject: Re: [TheForge] Dust/fumes mask
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> > Check out a couple of options for breathable
> air on 
> >>> > 'autobodystore.com'.
> >>> > They aren't expensive when considering health
> and buying replaceable
> >>> > cartridges for a mask.   You could adapt the
> hose to a welding helmet.
> >>> > The key word in Bruce's response is
> 'breathable' compressed air. 
> >>> > Without
> >>> > expensive filters, you don't be breathable air
> out of an ordinary
> >>> > compressor.
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > CraigS
> >>> > Gresham, OR
> >>> > ----- Original Message -----
> >>> > From: "Bruce Freeman" <freemab222 at yahoo.com>
> >>> > To: "Sponsored by ABANA"
> <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
> >>> > Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 9:01 PM
> >>> > Subject: Re: [TheForge] Dust/fumes mask
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >> Don,
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Have you considered rigging your own
> "supplied air"
> >>> >> mask?  What it would entail is bringing some
> flexible
> >>> >> hose from a remote (outside?) blower to your
> mask.
> >>> >> Obviously, this is not real convenient if you
> have to
> >>> >> move around a lot while welding, but if you
> are
> >>> >> working in a fixed position, it should not be
> much
> >>> >> bother.  (You can minimize the bother by
> fastening the
> >>> >> hose to your belt, so that it doesn't pull at
> the
> >>> >> mask.)
> >>> >>
> >>> >> If you are moving around, you could use
> breathable
> >>> >> compressed air (from a cylinder, unless you
> have an
> >>> >> appropriate pump), and bring it up to the
> mask in a
> >>> >> small diameter, "high pressure" hose that
> wouldn't
> >>> >> restrict movement so much.  Then at the mask
> (or belt)
> >>> >> you run it through a restrictor (a crushed
> tube works
> >>> >> well against a fixed high pressure head) to
> give low
> >>> >> pressure, high volume.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Bruce
> >>> >> NJ
> >>> >>
> >>> >> --- PlumDon at aol.com wrote:
> >>> >>
> >>> >>> Looking for a bit of advice.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Having some  increasing respiratory problems
> and
> >>> >>> need a dust/fumes mask that
> >>> >>> I can put an  electronic welding helmet
> over. Any
> >>> >>> ideas much appreciated. What
> >>> >>> I have wont  fit.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> I dont think I have been as much concerned
> about
> >>> >>> dust and fumes as I  should
> >>> >>> have been. Perhaps as we all should be.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Thanks for any  suggestions.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Don Plummer
> >>> >>> Plummer Design Works
> >>> >>> 392 Hallman Mill  Road
> >>> >>> Phoenixville, PA 19460
> >>> >>> 610-495-5058
> >>> >>> Plumdon at aol.com
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>
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