[TheForge] Dust/fumes mask

Peter Fels and Phoebe Palmer artgawk at thegrid.net
Fri Jan 11 00:39:57 EST 2008


Awww gee...during the 60s ,guys would rig up a skiff with a funky gas powered compressor made for spray painting and a second hand hooka rig and dive for abalonie off Santa Barbra...there were at least a dozen similar operations  and they survived, mostly...pf

-----Original Message-----
>From: Craig Schaefer <craig.schaefer at verizon.net>
>Sent: Jan 10, 2008 6:07 PM
>To: Sponsored by ABANA <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
>Subject: Re: [TheForge] Dust/fumes mask
>
>It would work, but it would be far cheaper and easier to buy a pre-made 
>breathing system designed for autobody repair.
>
>CraigS
>Gresham, OR
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Tod Estes" <testes at medicine.nodak.edu>
>To: "Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
>Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 6:04 PM
>Subject: Re: [TheForge] Dust/fumes mask
>
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>>I agree, if you went with a compressed air source you may want to consider 
>>a
>> hooka type diving set-up. That would allow you safe compressed air.
>> I wonder, if you could take a forge blower, electric driven, make a filter 
>> box
>> to filter incomming air, ducted to a hose connected to a helmet? Would 
>> that
>> work?
>> Quoting Peter Hirst <saltydog335 at aol.com>:
>>
>>> Don't even SUGGEST  using an ordinary air compressor or any rig that
>>> incorporates one for breathable air supply, whether SCBA or otherwise. 
>>> The
>>> lube oil atomizes, coats the lungs and you suffocate in  minutes or 
>>> seconds.
>>> I once knew  a sculptor in Southern California  who was all set to use 
>>> such
>>> a rig to do a piece involving full body immersion, when he just chanced 
>>> to
>>> run into a NASA engineer at a cocktail party, of all places.  The 
>>> engineer
>>> saved his life with this little piece of information.  Could have gone 
>>> the
>>> other way.
>>>
>>> pgh
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Craig Schaefer" <craig.schaefer at verizon.net>
>>> To: "Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 10:51 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [TheForge] Dust/fumes mask
>>>
>>>
>>> > Check out a couple of options for breathable air on 
>>> > 'autobodystore.com'.
>>> > They aren't expensive when considering health and buying replaceable
>>> > cartridges for a mask.   You could adapt the hose to a welding helmet.
>>> > The key word in Bruce's response is 'breathable' compressed air. 
>>> > Without
>>> > expensive filters, you don't be breathable air out of an ordinary
>>> > compressor.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > CraigS
>>> > Gresham, OR
>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>> > From: "Bruce Freeman" <freemab222 at yahoo.com>
>>> > To: "Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
>>> > Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 9:01 PM
>>> > Subject: Re: [TheForge] Dust/fumes mask
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> Don,
>>> >>
>>> >> Have you considered rigging your own "supplied air"
>>> >> mask?  What it would entail is bringing some flexible
>>> >> hose from a remote (outside?) blower to your mask.
>>> >> Obviously, this is not real convenient if you have to
>>> >> move around a lot while welding, but if you are
>>> >> working in a fixed position, it should not be much
>>> >> bother.  (You can minimize the bother by fastening the
>>> >> hose to your belt, so that it doesn't pull at the
>>> >> mask.)
>>> >>
>>> >> If you are moving around, you could use breathable
>>> >> compressed air (from a cylinder, unless you have an
>>> >> appropriate pump), and bring it up to the mask in a
>>> >> small diameter, "high pressure" hose that wouldn't
>>> >> restrict movement so much.  Then at the mask (or belt)
>>> >> you run it through a restrictor (a crushed tube works
>>> >> well against a fixed high pressure head) to give low
>>> >> pressure, high volume.
>>> >>
>>> >> Bruce
>>> >> NJ
>>> >>
>>> >> --- PlumDon at aol.com wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>> Looking for a bit of advice.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Having some  increasing respiratory problems and
>>> >>> need a dust/fumes mask that
>>> >>> I can put an  electronic welding helmet over. Any
>>> >>> ideas much appreciated. What
>>> >>> I have wont  fit.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I dont think I have been as much concerned about
>>> >>> dust and fumes as I  should
>>> >>> have been. Perhaps as we all should be.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Thanks for any  suggestions.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Don Plummer
>>> >>> Plummer Design Works
>>> >>> 392 Hallman Mill  Road
>>> >>> Phoenixville, PA 19460
>>> >>> 610-495-5058
>>> >>> Plumdon at aol.com
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
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