[TheForge] coffee and guns OT OT OT

[Peter Fels And Phoebe Palmer]

I propose that any president,legislator or powerful govt employee 
should have to live on the mean national income for the rest of 
their lives when they step down from office....grin

Jim Beard wrote:
> They were arguing about retro-active immunity for any crimes that the
> Telcos might have committed while helping the Bush administration
> wiretap domestic citizens inside the US without warrants.  The Telcos
> are afraid their customers are going to sue them for infringing their
> rights, and they and the Bush administration want them to be immune
> from lawsuits.  They briefly discussed a 'compromise' where if the
> Telco got sued, the US Government would stand in their place in court.
>  Not really a compromise if you ask me.
> 
> Anyway, listening to Orin Hatch was kind of disgusting.  He just kept
> droning on about how corporations need to be able to do what the
> government asks them to do with out being afraid that they will get
> prosecuted for it, regardless of the legality I guess.  Orin Hatch
> never mentioned the private citizens, he just kept saying
> 'corporation, corporation, corporation, corporation" ad nauseam.
> 
> Chris Dodd forced a long debate about the bill, and it was eventually
> pulled, and will be re-issued in January, when there is more time to
> debate it.
> 
> Jim
> Eugene, OR
> 
> 
> On Dec 19, 2007 4:52 PM, Andrew Vida <osan at netlabs.net> wrote:
>>
>> Jim Beard wrote:
>>
>>> Yesterday, Senators like Orin Hatch were up arguing that corporations
>>> bottom lines are more important then an individuals guaranteed
>>> constitutional rights.  It sounded like a screw job to me.
>>         Huh?  What were they saying?
>>
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