[TheForge] Carring Propane in a car

[Grant Marcoux]

Federal laws come into play when there is interstate commerce.  If there is
no commerce, there is no federal regulatory scheme in place.

 Generally, the feds regulate the construction of pressure vessels and the
licensing of commercial drivers.  One reason private citizens are often
exempt from federal oversight is due to the limited quantity exemptions.
e.g.:  a compressed gas aerosol can is reclassified to "ORM" (other
regulated materials) class "D" befcause of the small amounts shipped per
container.

  State and federal agencies don't want to regulate the activities of
private citizens not engaged in commerce, for the most part, so they have
placed these limited quantity exemptions in the regulations

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[mailto:theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net]On Behalf Of Ben Barrett
Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2007 5:45 AM
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Subject: Re: [TheForge] Carring Propane in a car


So is there a handy place to look up transport laws across multiple
states, for propane, acetylene, etc?
(I've heard rumors that pressurized oxy is not as regulated, dunno)
And then, what laws come into effect when you go inter-state?  Fed, or
just the next state?

I s'pose if you get hassled, you could park a block or three away and
walk up to the business with a hand-truck/dolly, what would they have
to say then?  I've not had to sign, but have been cautious in my old
sedan.... I treat that thing like a truck, but haven't taken a sawzall
to the roof yet!
I always keep my bottle diagonal in back, so the tanks are never
"pointed" at the drivers seat.  Still need to make some little jigs,
thouh, to keep them from rolling around -- I've just been stuffing
cruft to hold them in place when I need a refill so far.... and I
always try to have the tank out & ready for the refill/swap before the
service guy comes around.  Haven't had to sign anything in Oregon.  I
started with small (B/40) oxy/acet tanks, thinking they're handy, but
am getting wise to the extra cost now, wow.  Those little tanks feel
more dangerous too (no caps, for one thing).
Oh, and as for your block going boom, Marc, one tank alone could do
that, with [im]proper arrangements.... hard to say what your
collection is capable of.

ben


On 8/10/07, Jerry Frost <akfrosty at mtaonline.net> wrote:
> In Alaska, it's illegal to sell someone flammable gas
> if they intend to transport it in an enclosed vehicle.
> All containers have to be properly secured as well. The
> rules get "bent" regularly but not in the larger
> cities.
>
> If you have to transport it with an enclosed vehicle a
> roof rack would be my choice.
>
> Frosty
>
> From: "James Binnion" <jbin at well.com>
>
>
> >I don't know about propane as I have it delivered but
> >my gas supplier  has signs up saying they will not
> >even sell you acetylene if you are  not there in a
> >open bed truck.
> >
> >
> > Jim
> >
>
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