[TheForge] Welding Rod

Peter Fels And Phoebe Palmer artgawk at thegrid.net
Fri Jun 9 02:53:26 EDT 2006


Rick;
6011 and 6013 should start as easily as 7018...Perhaps it's time 
to crank up the amps a bit? Some new rod? ( I should talk..i burn 
rusty crusty 50 year old, auction reject rod when i can get away 
with it)
Try chipping a bright spot on the work to strike on and instead 
of pecking with the rod to start..strike it like a match, keeping 
the tip real close at the end of the stroke.
Remember that 7018 is a low-hydrogen rod and is structurally 
unreliable once it has absorbed a bit of moisture.
If you open up your buzz box ( unplugged and left to sit a day or 
2) you'll probably find that the unit that the crank raises and 
lowers has some adjustments along the rails that it rides on. If 
you snug those up a little,it should stay in place and run 
quieter. It's a good time to blow out the shop crud and maybe 
clean up any corroded connections...the latter can make for hard 
arc starting.
Pete F

Rick wrote:
> Oh boy, am I a goof some days.  I sent this off before going to work 
> this morning, and now I see I didn't really ask the question I wanted 
> to.  "What is the real difference between 7014 and 7018?"  I have 
> trouble with my little AC buzz box running small rod. It doesn't stay on 
> one setting well any more and since it is about as old as I am (or at 
> least 50, which is close enough) I can't fault it  too much.  I put a 
> bungee cord around it to sort of hold the adjustment still.  I have lots 
> of trouble getting the stick to start when I am running 6011 or 6013.  
> With the 7014 I had, I had no trouble at all.  It just ran  and did a 
> great job.  Is it just me or is that just the way that rod is?
> 
> Thanks,
> Rick Crawford at Rafter Lazy C
>  Home of Smoky Forge and Lem the Wonder Mule
>   In the middle of Northern Illinois
> 
>    http://www.smokyforge.com
>     rick at smokyforge.com
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Childers" <munlaw2 at hcsmail.com>
> To: <munlaw2 at hcsmail.com>; "'Sponsored by ABANA'" 
> <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 9:26 AM
> Subject: RE: [TheForge] Welding Rod
> 
> 
> Rick,
> 
> Check the end of the rod that goes in the electrode holder and clean off 
> the
> rust- 6010 (5P) or 6011 should work when wet- you may have to run a bit
> hotter... 6010 is for DC reverse polarity. They will work on AC if run at
> more heat than used with 6011.
> 
> Ron Childers
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Ron Childers
> Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 9:40 AM
> To: 'Sponsored by ABANA'
> Subject: RE: [TheForge] Welding Rod
> 
> E6011= 60k psi ts AC or DC + or - all position, general purpose - Works on
> dirty or rusted metal. E7014= 70K psi ts AC or DC + or- all position- used
> for lap & fillet welds- likes a clean surface. Google Lincoln consumables.
> You can get a brochure listing the rods and general information about each.
> 
> Ron Childers
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Rick
> Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 7:52 AM
> To: theforge at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [TheForge] Welding Rod
> 
> Hi folks -
> 
>    I am in the midst of a dilemma.  I used to weld every day, and got
> pretty good at it, but never learned about picking out which rod to 
> use.  (I
> 
> was primarily a layout man and only welded to fill in.)  I have heard 7018
> touted as a good all around rod.  I had some 7014 rod here that was 
> probably
> 
> 10-12 years old and never in a rod cabinet, since I don't have one.  It 
> also
> 
> gets quite humid here in the summer.  That 7014 rod worked great the other
> day when I used it.  The 6011 or 6013 I had wouldn't work near as well.
> 
>    Can someone tell me what the letters mean?  I know the first tells
> tensile strength, but what do the others mean?
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Rick Crawford at Rafter Lazy C
>  Home of Smoky Forge and Lem the Wonder Mule
>   In the middle of Northern Illinois
> 
>    http://www.smokyforge.com
>     rick at smokyforge.com
> 
> 
> 
> 


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