[TheForge] Steve' pics.

Steve Smith sos at alum.mit.edu
Fri Jul 14 08:35:52 EDT 2006 

If you have some spare time next visit, please come by and say hi. I 
know trips tend to be pretty busy, but you're welcome from this end.

Steve

Robert J Hill wrote:

> I just looked at your photos Steve.  Great job!  Dadyan's work is 
> incredible.  His web page states that he sometimes has 1500 hits per 
> inch.  He doesn't drink coffee I am sure.  You must have been sitting 
> beside me for Hickman's demo.  I see you're from Brownfield, ME.  I grew 
> up in No. Conway.  Living in Seattle now.  I stay just over the border 
> from Fryeberg when I go back to visit.  I hope to come back in time for 
> foliage.  Any way, thanks again for the pics.
> Rob Hill
> On Jul 13, 2006, at 19:37, Steve Smith wrote:
> 
> Maybe I lucked out in my choices. The only demo that changed from what I 
> printed out was Dadyan. The original had Dadyan at the same time as 
> Haberman, both doing repousse'. They made them separate times.
> 
> Also, what sticks in my mind from past conferences is Wisconsin. It was 
> difficult.
> 
> An espresso stand would have made a ton of money. Great idea, even if 
> the next one isn't in Seattle. There were also days when a large, very 
> hot coffee was in order!
> 
> Steve
> 
> Robert J Hill wrote:
> 
>> Just an observation;
>> The demo schedule listed on the web page was tedious to locate.  I 
>> printed it out, marked off who I wanted to see and brought that with 
>> me to the conference.  I wish I could show you all the changes I made. 
>>  Having missed something I started checking the boards anytime I 
>> walked by one.  It was the only way to keep on top of things.  Even 
>> then I wasn't totally successful.  To plan and organize something like 
>> this is well beyond my abilities.  So I can't judge too harshly.  More 
>> signs and general announcements may have helped.  A few tents would 
>> list who was doing what for the day.  That was a plus.  In keeping 
>> with the Seattle coffee culture idea an espresso stand to serve drinks 
>> and snacks probably would have done really well.  There was a few days 
>> where an iced coffee, maybe even a decent sandwich would have been the 
>> perfect thing.  Speaking of sandwich it's time for dinner.  I'm still 
>> organizing the photos I took.  I am on a MAC so hopefully there won't 
>> be issues trying to post them.
>> Rob Hill
>> On Jul 13, 2006, at 15:50, Steve Smith wrote:
>> So why didn't you folks host it? I haven't heard that part of things.
>> I have to disagree with some of your complaints. Each demo pavillion 
>> was clearly marked as to which one it was, and the listing of demos 
>> and classes was given out in our tote bags. If you didn't look at the 
>> listings online in advance, it would be hard to figure out what sort 
>> of demo to expect from a given name, but they were almost all 
>> available. The web page could have been organized a lot better, but it 
>> was all there. It even got updated with a couple of last minute 
>> changes in the final week.
>> More flexibility in meals is a great idea. I suspect the hungry ate 
>> somewhere...
>> Steve
>> Gladish Family wrote:
>>
>>> Just a note: this was NOT organized by the local people, though there 
>>> was some great participation by a couple. We were looking forward to 
>>> hosting it but were not allowed that opportunity.
>>> The demonstrators were wonderful- I was especially impressed by the 
>>> great attitude and philosophy of the people from Japan, Chile, 
>>> Mexico, Holland, England, and Australia.
>>> It would be difficult to convey even a taste of what was passed on 
>>> there, but I really enjoyed the Design and Business seminars- lots of 
>>> info in a very short time.
>>> For me, Medwedeff's statement that "we are not our customers' banker" 
>>> was worth the price of entry just by itself- a light went on when I 
>>> thought of how many times I've bought materials and provided labor as 
>>> an interest-free loan to the customer- not to mention design work 
>>> done on faith...but there were many moments like that.
>>> You can go and just learn techniques, but the attitude of the 
>>> presenters was the greatest part, for me.
>>> Complaints: It was difficult to figure out where demos and events 
>>> were and what was being presented- the signage was scanty and not 
>>> very helpful, and there was only one very late demo on Friday eve, 
>>> though I don't know if that's usual practice- it's just that it was 
>>> the only night I could be there and it pretty much shut down by 6. 
>>> Maybe they're all like that, this was my first ABANA. Also, we make a 
>>> practice of feeding everyone at least one meal at every local 
>>> conference, and at this one that wasn't done- you bought a meal 
>>> ticket in advance or you didn't eat, and to make it worse the food 
>>> was served right in front of a lot of hungry folks who didn't have 
>>> and couldn't get a ticket. I feel strongly that there should be at 
>>> least one catered meal for ALL attendees, so everyone feels welcomed 
>>> and included- there's something about eating together that brings 
>>> people closer. Maybe that happened the first night- anyone know?
>>> Bruce Freeman wrote:
>>>
>>>> I realize these conferences are organized largely by the local section,
>>>> but REALLY it's about time these organizational problems were fixed. 
>>>>  It
>>>> really should be up to ABANA to evaluate and log these problems, and to
>>>> come up with better ways of doing things.
>>>>
>>>> I attended the 1998 conference, and missed SO MUCH because the
>>>> available information was so poorly presented that I found it difficult
>>>> to get to the demos most interesting to me. Since then I've attended 
>>>> as many of the local conferences and demos as
>>>> I've been able to, and find they provide much more bang for the buck
>>>> (counting ALL the bucks - travel, lodging, conference fees, food).
>>>>
>>>> I have not been tempted to go to another ABANA conference.  I'll go to
>>>> the New Paltz one (2008?) because it's so close by, but maybe my
>>>> contribution (time permitting) will be to present the program in a
>>>> manner to allow people to actually attend the demos they most want to
>>>> see, instead of spending megahours figuring out what will be where, 
>>>> then
>>>> finding the schedule was changed anyway.
>>>>
>>>> Bruce
>>>> NJ
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> mpaietta at iglide.net 7/13/2006 1:20:31 AM >>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <snip>
>>>> I really enjoyed the classes, but it was not organized well. They had
>>>> four different lists that seamed hidden on the website. The demo list
>>>> with
>>>> times, locations, and demonstrator did not say what they were
>>>> demonstrating,
>>>> that was on another list. The list changed and was not updated very
>>>> well. My
>>>> friend wanted to go on the UW metal lab tour the people who were
>>>> volunteering their time were not informed of the different tours. There
>>>> had
>>>> been an issue long before with the local chapter and the person in
>>>> charge of
>>>> the conference.  <snip>
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> Martin
>>>>
>>>>
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