[TheForge] Steve' pics.

Thu Jul 13 22:54:54 EDT 2006

I just looked at your photos Steve.  Great job!  Dadyan's work is 
incredible.  His web page states that he sometimes has 1500 hits per 
inch.  He doesn't drink coffee I am sure.  You must have been sitting 
beside me for Hickman's demo.  I see you're from Brownfield, ME.  I 
grew up in No. Conway.  Living in Seattle now.  I stay just over the 
border from Fryeberg when I go back to visit.  I hope to come back in 
time for foliage.  Any way, thanks again for the pics.
Rob Hill
On Jul 13, 2006, at 19:37, Steve Smith wrote:

Maybe I lucked out in my choices. The only demo that changed from what 
I printed out was Dadyan. The original had Dadyan at the same time as 
Haberman, both doing repousse'. They made them separate times.

Also, what sticks in my mind from past conferences is Wisconsin. It was 
difficult.

An espresso stand would have made a ton of money. Great idea, even if 
the next one isn't in Seattle. There were also days when a large, very 
hot coffee was in order!

Steve

Robert J Hill wrote:

> Just an observation;
> The demo schedule listed on the web page was tedious to locate.  I 
> printed it out, marked off who I wanted to see and brought that with 
> me to the conference.  I wish I could show you all the changes I made. 
>  Having missed something I started checking the boards anytime I 
> walked by one.  It was the only way to keep on top of things.  Even 
> then I wasn't totally successful.  To plan and organize something like 
> this is well beyond my abilities.  So I can't judge too harshly.  More 
> signs and general announcements may have helped.  A few tents would 
> list who was doing what for the day.  That was a plus.  In keeping 
> with the Seattle coffee culture idea an espresso stand to serve drinks 
> and snacks probably would have done really well.  There was a few days 
> where an iced coffee, maybe even a decent sandwich would have been the 
> perfect thing.  Speaking of sandwich it's time for dinner.  I'm still 
> organizing the photos I took.  I am on a MAC so hopefully there won't 
> be issues trying to post them.
> Rob Hill
> On Jul 13, 2006, at 15:50, Steve Smith wrote:
> So why didn't you folks host it? I haven't heard that part of things.
> I have to disagree with some of your complaints. Each demo pavillion 
> was clearly marked as to which one it was, and the listing of demos 
> and classes was given out in our tote bags. If you didn't look at the 
> listings online in advance, it would be hard to figure out what sort 
> of demo to expect from a given name, but they were almost all 
> available. The web page could have been organized a lot better, but it 
> was all there. It even got updated with a couple of last minute 
> changes in the final week.
> More flexibility in meals is a great idea. I suspect the hungry ate 
> somewhere...
> Steve
> Gladish Family wrote:
>> Just a note: this was NOT organized by the local people, though there 
>> was some great participation by a couple. We were looking forward to 
>> hosting it but were not allowed that opportunity.
>> The demonstrators were wonderful- I was especially impressed by the 
>> great attitude and philosophy of the people from Japan, Chile, 
>> Mexico, Holland, England, and Australia.
>> It would be difficult to convey even a taste of what was passed on 
>> there, but I really enjoyed the Design and Business seminars- lots of 
>> info in a very short time.
>> For me, Medwedeff's statement that "we are not our customers' banker" 
>> was worth the price of entry just by itself- a light went on when I 
>> thought of how many times I've bought materials and provided labor as 
>> an interest-free loan to the customer- not to mention design work 
>> done on faith...but there were many moments like that.
>> You can go and just learn techniques, but the attitude of the 
>> presenters was the greatest part, for me.
>> Complaints: It was difficult to figure out where demos and events 
>> were and what was being presented- the signage was scanty and not 
>> very helpful, and there was only one very late demo on Friday eve, 
>> though I don't know if that's usual practice- it's just that it was 
>> the only night I could be there and it pretty much shut down by 6. 
>> Maybe they're all like that, this was my first ABANA. Also, we make a 
>> practice of feeding everyone at least one meal at every local 
>> conference, and at this one that wasn't done- you bought a meal 
>> ticket in advance or you didn't eat, and to make it worse the food 
>> was served right in front of a lot of hungry folks who didn't have 
>> and couldn't get a ticket. I feel strongly that there should be at 
>> least one catered meal for ALL attendees, so everyone feels welcomed 
>> and included- there's something about eating together that brings 
>> people closer. Maybe that happened the first night- anyone know?
>> Bruce Freeman wrote:
>>
>>> I realize these conferences are organized largely by the local 
>>> section,
>>> but REALLY it's about time these organizational problems were fixed. 
>>>  It
>>> really should be up to ABANA to evaluate and log these problems, and 
>>> to
>>> come up with better ways of doing things.
>>>
>>> I attended the 1998 conference, and missed SO MUCH because the
>>> available information was so poorly presented that I found it 
>>> difficult
>>> to get to the demos most interesting to me. Since then I've attended 
>>> as many of the local conferences and demos as
>>> I've been able to, and find they provide much more bang for the buck
>>> (counting ALL the bucks - travel, lodging, conference fees, food).
>>>
>>> I have not been tempted to go to another ABANA conference.  I'll go 
>>> to
>>> the New Paltz one (2008?) because it's so close by, but maybe my
>>> contribution (time permitting) will be to present the program in a
>>> manner to allow people to actually attend the demos they most want to
>>> see, instead of spending megahours figuring out what will be where, 
>>> then
>>> finding the schedule was changed anyway.
>>>
>>> Bruce
>>> NJ
>>>
>>>
>>>>>> mpaietta at iglide.net 7/13/2006 1:20:31 AM >>>
>>>>>>
>>>
>>> <snip>
>>> I really enjoyed the classes, but it was not organized well. They had
>>> four different lists that seamed hidden on the website. The demo list
>>> with
>>> times, locations, and demonstrator did not say what they were
>>> demonstrating,
>>> that was on another list. The list changed and was not updated very
>>> well. My
>>> friend wanted to go on the UW metal lab tour the people who were
>>> volunteering their time were not informed of the different tours. 
>>> There
>>> had
>>> been an issue long before with the local chapter and the person in
>>> charge of
>>> the conference.  <snip>
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Martin
>>>
>>>
>>>
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