[TheForge] Nazel 4b

Justin Fellenz sunironworks at yahoo.com
Fri Aug 12 08:36:40 EDT 2005 

Of course. 

--- Jerry Frost <frosty at customcpu.com> wrote:

> I like the way you think Justin.
> 
> A CVN of course. I think you'd want nuclear to power the million ton
> steam 
> hammer. No?
> 
> Frosty
> ------------------------
> If it ain't forged
> it ain't real.
> Wrought iron is.
> The FrostWorks
> 
> Meadow Lakes, AK.
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Justin Fellenz" <sunironworks at yahoo.com>
> To: "Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 12:04 PM
> Subject: RE: [TheForge] Nazel 4b
> 
> 
> > Uh, start with "big" and "fast" and work your way up till you
> couldn't
> > afford it anymore. Like, say, an f-18 on your own aircraft carrier.
> > Your own foundry. All the machine tools to manufacture any vehicle
> you
> > could imagine and the master tradespeople to teach you how to use
> them.
> > You know. Big. Fast. Interesting. Cool.
> >
> > But you're right. You either go for the superlative or you run out
> of
> > money.
> >
> > In the meantime, I'll work on the chinese hammer and maybe an
> english
> > wheel. And see if I can find a master smith who will teach me to
> use
> > them both with more finesse for beers and laughs.
> >
> > J
> >
> > --- Kevin Donahoe <flyinpig at go-concepts.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Justin wrote "Ah well. Wouldn't it be nice to be filthy rich?
> THink
> >> of all
> >> the silly
> >> things you could have...."
> >>
> >> But then, how would we know what's important :)?
> >>
> >> KD
> >>
> >>  -----Original Message-----
> >>  From: theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> >>  [mailto:theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net]On Behalf Of Justin
> Fellenz
> >>  Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 1:13 PM
> >>  To: Sponsored by ABANA
> >>  Subject: RE: [TheForge] Nazel 4b
> >>
> >>
> >>  Yeah, and then you gotta have one of those 3000 lb steam
> >> chambersburgs,
> >>  and then you gotta get a hundred-million-pound monster like
> someone
> >> was
> >>  talking about at alcoa...there's just no end to cool stuff you
> NEED
> >> to
> >>  have in your shop.
> >>
> >>  Nah, Ries and others poured sufficient oil on the waters of
> >> insanity. I
> >>  am back to just working toward a chinese 88 pounder. Of course,
> now
> >> I
> >>  gotta work some gazintas and in-floor exhaust into my shop
> plans...
> >>
> >>  Ah well. Wouldn't it be nice to be filthy rich? THink of all the
> >> silly
> >>  things you could have....
> >>
> >>  J
> >>
> >>  --- Kevin Donahoe <flyinpig at go-concepts.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>  > Justin,
> >>  >
> >>  > Why stop at a 4B, here's a 5B for sale here in Cincinnati at CW
> >> Wood,
> >>  > Inc.
> >>  >
> http://inv.cwwood.com/q/webinv/008760=iform,4628,,,b,,,20068474,,
> >>  >
> >>  > Just think 21K lbs of iron, 750# ram weight, approximately 25
> hp
> >>  > motor....
> >>  > whooooooohooooo!
> >>  >
> >>  > I called once to see it, kinda like driving by a wreck on the
> >> hiway,
> >>  > just
> >>  > gotta look.  But I don't think it's exactly in stock.
> >>  >
> >>  > Also, don't many of these hammers this size require a team to
> run
> >>  > them?  Got
> >>  > any relations or nearby friends similarly afflicted?  Hell,
> I'll
> >> come
> >>  > and
> >>  > play.
> >>  >
> >>  > Kevin D
> >>  >
> >>  >  -----Original Message-----
> >>  >  From: theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> >>  >  [mailto:theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net]On Behalf Of Justin
> >> Fellenz
> >>  >  Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 9:52 AM
> >>  >  To: Sponsored by ABANA
> >>  >  Subject: Re: [TheForge] Nazel 4b
> >>  >
> >>  >
> >>  >  Ries,
> >>  >  >
> >>  >  > Hey Justin- I only have an 88lb hammer- a nazel 4 B is
> >> something
> >>  > like
> >>  >  > a
> >>  >  > 400lb hammer, able to work 7" square material.
> >>  >  >
> >>  >  Yeah, it's probably a bit much. I was thinking of offering 2k,
> >> but
> >>  > even
> >>  >  that with rigging and installation is probably not worth it. I
> >>  > admit, I
> >>  >  do have a thing for huge old chunks of iron, but I hardly have
> >> Mr.
> >>  >  Leno's resources. I have (had) more or less decided on an 88lb
> >>  > Striker,
> >>  >  but then tis came along.
> >>  >
> >>  >  > Thats not buying a tool- thats making a lifelong
> committment.
> >>  >
> >>  >  Well said. I always figure tools are for life, but you can
> overdo
> >>  > it.
> >>  >
> >>  >  > Of course, my friend George Rolstad has something like 5
> >> hammers
> >>  > in
> >>  >  > this size range, including one at least twice this big. But
> >> none
> >>  > of
> >>  >  > em
> >>  >  > have been running in 10 years or so, and not destined to do
> so
> >> any
> >>  >  > time
> >>  >  > soon- George is more of a collector, with the eventual
> >> intention
> >>  > of
> >>  >  > getting his shop running before he dies.
> >>  >
> >>  >  Yeah. I can see that approach, I guess. I have a friend who
> does
> >> the
> >>  >  same thing. He has 16 or so anvils in pristine shape from
> 350-700
> >>  >  pounds and doesn't own a forge. They'll never see a piece of
> hot
> >>  > iron
> >>  >  again, and that's fine with him. Not really my style--I
> actually
> >> get
> >>  >  groceries and whatnote in my unimog, same as a pickup truck. I
> >> have
> >>  > a
> >>  >  lot of old tools, some of which are dolar for dollar not as
> >>  > efficient
> >>  >  as a newer version, but I put up with their ideosyncracies
> >> because I
> >>  >  like old iron. It's a balance.
> >>  >
> >>  >  > but if your goal is actually to forge parts,
> >>  >  you probably ought to look at smaller hammers.
> >>  >
> >>  >  It is. I'm starting down the road you seem to be well along, a
> >> kid
> >>  > on
> >>  >  the way and a desire to do metal art for a living. We'll see
> if I
> >>  > have
> >>  >  the talent. So a more reasonable hammer is, well, more
> >> reasonable.
> >>  >
> >>  >  Are you going to the Seattle Abana conference?
> >>  >
> >>  >  J
> >>  >
> >>  >
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