[TheForge] Nazel 4b
Kevin Donahoe
flyinpig at go-concepts.com
Fri Aug 12 13:48:18 EDT 2005
Justin, don't you mean "But... of course" with a flick of the moustache and
a fake french accent, ala Inspector Cleuseau? (Peter Sellers, however one
spells Cleuseau, it's definitely not in my spell check)
Kevin
-----Original Message-----
From: theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net
[mailto:theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net]On Behalf Of Justin Fellenz
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 8:37 AM
To: Sponsored by ABANA
Subject: Re: [TheForge] Nazel 4b
Of course.
--- Jerry Frost <frosty at customcpu.com> wrote:
> I like the way you think Justin.
>
> A CVN of course. I think you'd want nuclear to power the million ton
> steam
> hammer. No?
>
> Frosty
> ------------------------
> If it ain't forged
> it ain't real.
> Wrought iron is.
> The FrostWorks
>
> Meadow Lakes, AK.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Justin Fellenz" <sunironworks at yahoo.com>
> To: "Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 12:04 PM
> Subject: RE: [TheForge] Nazel 4b
>
>
> > Uh, start with "big" and "fast" and work your way up till you
> couldn't
> > afford it anymore. Like, say, an f-18 on your own aircraft carrier.
> > Your own foundry. All the machine tools to manufacture any vehicle
> you
> > could imagine and the master tradespeople to teach you how to use
> them.
> > You know. Big. Fast. Interesting. Cool.
> >
> > But you're right. You either go for the superlative or you run out
> of
> > money.
> >
> > In the meantime, I'll work on the chinese hammer and maybe an
> english
> > wheel. And see if I can find a master smith who will teach me to
> use
> > them both with more finesse for beers and laughs.
> >
> > J
> >
> > --- Kevin Donahoe <flyinpig at go-concepts.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Justin wrote "Ah well. Wouldn't it be nice to be filthy rich?
> THink
> >> of all
> >> the silly
> >> things you could have...."
> >>
> >> But then, how would we know what's important :)?
> >>
> >> KD
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> >> [mailto:theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net]On Behalf Of Justin
> Fellenz
> >> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 1:13 PM
> >> To: Sponsored by ABANA
> >> Subject: RE: [TheForge] Nazel 4b
> >>
> >>
> >> Yeah, and then you gotta have one of those 3000 lb steam
> >> chambersburgs,
> >> and then you gotta get a hundred-million-pound monster like
> someone
> >> was
> >> talking about at alcoa...there's just no end to cool stuff you
> NEED
> >> to
> >> have in your shop.
> >>
> >> Nah, Ries and others poured sufficient oil on the waters of
> >> insanity. I
> >> am back to just working toward a chinese 88 pounder. Of course,
> now
> >> I
> >> gotta work some gazintas and in-floor exhaust into my shop
> plans...
> >>
> >> Ah well. Wouldn't it be nice to be filthy rich? THink of all the
> >> silly
> >> things you could have....
> >>
> >> J
> >>
> >> --- Kevin Donahoe <flyinpig at go-concepts.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Justin,
> >> >
> >> > Why stop at a 4B, here's a 5B for sale here in Cincinnati at CW
> >> Wood,
> >> > Inc.
> >> >
> http://inv.cwwood.com/q/webinv/008760=iform,4628,,,b,,,20068474,,
> >> >
> >> > Just think 21K lbs of iron, 750# ram weight, approximately 25
> hp
> >> > motor....
> >> > whooooooohooooo!
> >> >
> >> > I called once to see it, kinda like driving by a wreck on the
> >> hiway,
> >> > just
> >> > gotta look. But I don't think it's exactly in stock.
> >> >
> >> > Also, don't many of these hammers this size require a team to
> run
> >> > them? Got
> >> > any relations or nearby friends similarly afflicted? Hell,
> I'll
> >> come
> >> > and
> >> > play.
> >> >
> >> > Kevin D
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> >> > [mailto:theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net]On Behalf Of Justin
> >> Fellenz
> >> > Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 9:52 AM
> >> > To: Sponsored by ABANA
> >> > Subject: Re: [TheForge] Nazel 4b
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Ries,
> >> > >
> >> > > Hey Justin- I only have an 88lb hammer- a nazel 4 B is
> >> something
> >> > like
> >> > > a
> >> > > 400lb hammer, able to work 7" square material.
> >> > >
> >> > Yeah, it's probably a bit much. I was thinking of offering 2k,
> >> but
> >> > even
> >> > that with rigging and installation is probably not worth it. I
> >> > admit, I
> >> > do have a thing for huge old chunks of iron, but I hardly have
> >> Mr.
> >> > Leno's resources. I have (had) more or less decided on an 88lb
> >> > Striker,
> >> > but then tis came along.
> >> >
> >> > > Thats not buying a tool- thats making a lifelong
> committment.
> >> >
> >> > Well said. I always figure tools are for life, but you can
> overdo
> >> > it.
> >> >
> >> > > Of course, my friend George Rolstad has something like 5
> >> hammers
> >> > in
> >> > > this size range, including one at least twice this big. But
> >> none
> >> > of
> >> > > em
> >> > > have been running in 10 years or so, and not destined to do
> so
> >> any
> >> > > time
> >> > > soon- George is more of a collector, with the eventual
> >> intention
> >> > of
> >> > > getting his shop running before he dies.
> >> >
> >> > Yeah. I can see that approach, I guess. I have a friend who
> does
> >> the
> >> > same thing. He has 16 or so anvils in pristine shape from
> 350-700
> >> > pounds and doesn't own a forge. They'll never see a piece of
> hot
> >> > iron
> >> > again, and that's fine with him. Not really my style--I
> actually
> >> get
> >> > groceries and whatnote in my unimog, same as a pickup truck. I
> >> have
> >> > a
> >> > lot of old tools, some of which are dolar for dollar not as
> >> > efficient
> >> > as a newer version, but I put up with their ideosyncracies
> >> because I
> >> > like old iron. It's a balance.
> >> >
> >> > > but if your goal is actually to forge parts,
> >> > you probably ought to look at smaller hammers.
> >> >
> >> > It is. I'm starting down the road you seem to be well along, a
> >> kid
> >> > on
> >> > the way and a desire to do metal art for a living. We'll see
> if I
> >> > have
> >> > the talent. So a more reasonable hammer is, well, more
> >> reasonable.
> >> >
> >> > Are you going to the Seattle Abana conference?
> >> >
> >> > J
> >> >
> >> >
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