[TheForge] Triangles

Tue May 4 20:39:05 2004

Listening isn't subjective if it is done as a true blind test. If a 
person can consistently pick the same favorite without knowing which 
sample is being randomly presented, there is a difference.

Of course, it doesn't tell you why.

Steve

[email protected] wrote:
> Thanks for the reply Steve. But what I am really
> interested in is the scientific proof that says that
> using higher carbon steel produces a different
> ring than lower carbon steel and also why quenching
> would affect the ring. These thoughts are often
> presented as a given. If the proof is that common
> it should be easy to show. Listening to various samples
> is  subjective.
> 
> Bob
> ____
> 
> 
> On May 4, 2004, at 5:55 PM, Steve Smith wrote:
> 
>> Bob, I think you have a very good point (in the absence of data at 
>> this end also). Hardening the steel affects yield point, not elastic 
>> bending.
>>
>> This should be pretty simple to try. I'd do it myself, but I'm still 
>> trying to get my chimney up on the new shop--still no forge here. If 
>> someone trys it, the listening test should be blind: a helper does the 
>> ringing of the triangles, and the listener doesn't know whether it is 
>> a hardened triangle or a soft one. Several (random) trials of each. 
>> Who's going to volunteer?
>>
>> Steve Smith
>>
>> [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>> Is it really the hardness or carbon content of the steel that changes
>>> the tone or is it the shape?
>>> I think the shape. Small differences between one triangle and another
>>> may change the tone but I think the tone is not affected by the carbon
>>> content or the quenching. Super or otherwise.
>>> This opinion is just an opinion. I have no actual data to confirm or 
>>> deny.
>>> If you do have actual data (not anecdotal) I would like to see it.
>>> Bob
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>>>> At 15:57 05/03/04, you wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Made a few triangles - I found that mild steel works
>>>>> fine, but you get a much better ring if you quench the
>>>>> corners in superquench. Really improves the tone and
>>>>> intensity.
>>>>>
>>>>> FWFaller
>>>
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