[TheForge] Melted Flares & Refractory Liner

Mon Mar 10 20:06:01 2003

I have tried both Jay's mild steel and ss flares.  The ss flares lasted
longer last time but I also set them back behind the castible liner into the
ceramic fiber insulation.  The first time I had the mild steel ones and they
extended into the liner, about 1/4" recessed.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Smith" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 9:28 PM
Subject: Re: [TheForge] Melted Flares & Refractory Liner


> Pretty impressive, Ed. Are your flares stainless?
>
> Steve Smith
>
> Ed F wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I'm running the awesome robust reliable cheap burners Jay Hayes sells.
> > Problem is I keep melting the flares.  I replace them after 200 hours or
so.
> > Yah, I think she gets hot enough, thank you.  But I think the flare
> > deterioration has a lot to do with the 1 1/2" castible refractory liner
I
> > have (backed by 3" ceramic fiber).  I have about 1/4" clearance all
around
> > the flare to the refractory.
> >
> > Jay suggested I wrap the flares in ceramic fiber, extending 1/4" beyond
the
> > flare end, to protect them from the heat of the castible refractory
liner.
> > Not to take away from his advise at all, I'm curious what others are
doing.
> > I haven't heard of others having this problem.  I know several people
here
> > have a refractory liners inside the ceramic fiber insulation.
> >
> > By the way, I'm sorry to sound so promotional about Jay's stuff, but I
feel
> > sorry for people who read Ron Reil's site and don't find anything about
what
> > Jay offers.  Everything Jay sells is cheap - supplies and parts made for
us.
> > He does big time commercial work in the glass industry so he has all the
> > stuff we use and buys in quantity.  And his flares kick ass because they
are
> > machined not pressed.  I tried the pressed ones, too.  His burners are
> > simple and like I said they get damn hot, and that's hot enough.  I was
> > heating 2 feet of (3) 1 1/4" square bars simultaneously on the last job
with
> > no problem, and that was with obliterated flares.
> >
> > I don't make money promoting Jay's stuff, nor do I think he makes any
money
> > selling it.  He's spent more time helping me than I can ever make up for
> > buying cheap supplies.
> >
> > Here is a link to his site: http://home.earthlink.net/~xmas4lites/
> >
> > The picture of him shown was taken a while ago.  At that time he was
quite
> > good looking.  However, since then he has required a cranial enlargement
> > operation to accomodate his ever expanding brain.  OK I'm kidding but if
you
> > talk to him about combustion you'll know what I mean.  Jay is the real
deal.
> > If you want to play with "magic" go elsewhere.  If you want practically
> > engineered stuff from a real blacksmith, talk to Jay!  He's the guy you
> > hated in school because he aced all the math exams and ran circles
around
> > you in shop class.
> >
> > Yours,
> >
> > Ed
> >
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