[TheForge] Melted Flares & Refractory Liner

[Steve Smith]

Pretty impressive, Ed. Are your flares stainless?

Steve Smith

Ed F wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> I'm running the awesome robust reliable cheap burners Jay Hayes sells.
> Problem is I keep melting the flares.  I replace them after 200 hours or so.
> Yah, I think she gets hot enough, thank you.  But I think the flare
> deterioration has a lot to do with the 1 1/2" castible refractory liner I
> have (backed by 3" ceramic fiber).  I have about 1/4" clearance all around
> the flare to the refractory.
> 
> Jay suggested I wrap the flares in ceramic fiber, extending 1/4" beyond the
> flare end, to protect them from the heat of the castible refractory liner.
> Not to take away from his advise at all, I'm curious what others are doing.
> I haven't heard of others having this problem.  I know several people here
> have a refractory liners inside the ceramic fiber insulation.
> 
> By the way, I'm sorry to sound so promotional about Jay's stuff, but I feel
> sorry for people who read Ron Reil's site and don't find anything about what
> Jay offers.  Everything Jay sells is cheap - supplies and parts made for us.
> He does big time commercial work in the glass industry so he has all the
> stuff we use and buys in quantity.  And his flares kick ass because they are
> machined not pressed.  I tried the pressed ones, too.  His burners are
> simple and like I said they get damn hot, and that's hot enough.  I was
> heating 2 feet of (3) 1 1/4" square bars simultaneously on the last job with
> no problem, and that was with obliterated flares.
> 
> I don't make money promoting Jay's stuff, nor do I think he makes any money
> selling it.  He's spent more time helping me than I can ever make up for
> buying cheap supplies.
> 
> Here is a link to his site: http://home.earthlink.net/~xmas4lites/
> 
> The picture of him shown was taken a while ago.  At that time he was quite
> good looking.  However, since then he has required a cranial enlargement
> operation to accomodate his ever expanding brain.  OK I'm kidding but if you
> talk to him about combustion you'll know what I mean.  Jay is the real deal.
> If you want to play with "magic" go elsewhere.  If you want practically
> engineered stuff from a real blacksmith, talk to Jay!  He's the guy you
> hated in school because he aced all the math exams and ran circles around
> you in shop class.
> 
> Yours,
> 
> Ed
> 
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