[TheForge] Re: Seattle Board Meeting Minutes Posted

Wed Dec 26 00:26:02 2001

At 10:53 PM 12/24/01, you wrote:
Yes...I'm easily confused...my native cynicism abandoned me...sorry.
I'd assumed than the cost of insurance covering  the board  from the 
chapter "fallout" was significant...wrong.
" Of real value"
Oh , it's easy to make proposals like a shop and health insurance Pool that 
was non profit , for the members...and
say , paying writers for articles so as to raise the number and level of 
hammer's blow contributions.....or , Hiring someone like
Jock Demsey to make the web-site something other than pretty...and , having 
more ABANA events out west  for the members here...
But I wouldn't propose things like that, because I know darn well that if I 
do, I'll end up having to do them.
Perhaps when my wife has a house....There will be time.
I want to strongly state that I realize that ABANA is powered by volunteer 
efforts,
and that  I'm grateful for the huge number of hours you folks put in,
and the kvetching you put up with.
Pete Fels

>Peter, I think that you are confused when you say without the cost of ins. &
>admin. ABANA never insured the chapters... Whatever ins. that ABANA has
>is not going to change. And what administration cost would change? ABANA
>pays the Exec. secretary and the editors of the 2 publications, nobody else.
>That won't be changing either. Most all of the mail to the chapters err,
>affiliates
>is by e-mail. Not a whole lot of stuff changes other than the name, and
>would
>not a chapter by any other name, serve the same purpose? The other major
>change of course is the liability factor. With no "legal" connection, ABANA
>can not be held responsible for fall out from flying anvils etc.
>I would be interested to know your feelings on what else we can
>do ("of real value") for the smithing community. I am open to
>discuss any ideas that anyone has on this subject. The cost of running ABANA
>has not been reduced significantly, if at all. So a reduction in dues is not
>likely.
>
>dave m.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Peter Fels and Phoebe Palmer <[email protected]>
>To: <[email protected]>
>Sent: Monday, December 24, 2001 10:23 PM
>Subject: Re: [TheForge] Re: Seattle Board Meeting Minutes Posted
>
>
> > At 06:25 AM 12/24/01, you wrote:
> >
> > I'll second Brian and point out that without the costs  of insurance and
> > administration that this arrangement saves...we should be  able to do
>more
> > stuff that is  of real value to the smithing community. Another
>possibility
> > is reducing dues, which tend to exclude the folks who need support the
>most.
> > Funny how grousing has monentum and continues after the problem is solved.
> > Pete Fels/ ironyworks
> >
> >
> >
> > >Everyone:
> > >
> > >I hesitate to post to this list, since my meaning is often misunderstood,
>
>
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