Ordered a CD with the manuals on it today from Ebay after the seller sent me a couple of example pages from the CD and so I won't need the manuals photocopies. PS: If I can I am going to put the manuals for the radios I have on my web page. If I get permission. Thank you however to everyone who offered me help and with this CD I plan on returning the offer of help if someone asks! Jacob Tennant K8JWT