[SOC] This is What I'm Talkin' About!

hank k8dd k8dd at arrl.net
Tue Oct 13 01:42:51 EDT 2009


This has really become SOC .....
But ..... google "Crime in Australia"    It's everywhere and that's Second
Class.
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=15304
http://www.crimestoppers.com.au/
https://www.osac.gov/Reports/report.cfm?contentID=79128
https://www.osac.gov/Reports/report.cfm?contentID=101186
http://www.discoverychannel.co.uk/ontv_highlights/promo8/index.shtml

The list goes on .....






On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 1:35 AM, Charles Harpole <k4vud at hotmail.com> wrote:

>
> Sorry Bob, but people do act differently in different places and
> times:Places:-Thai-s are loath to do anything bad if anyone, even buddies in
> crime, can see them.-Bhutan has such a small population that a bad criminal
> will be known quickly, so there are VERY few bad people there.Time:1940--
> Think about car-jacking... unknown in 1940 (yes, there were cars
> then).1700s--English army would never fight from behind trees, etc.... just
> not manly nor soldier-like.Point:  over time and place, people will have
> standards of "what they just will not do" and there are still some of
> thesestandards here today, if different from other days/times.  For example,
> a man who has done murder is, nevertheless, extremely unlikely to walk naked
> in daylight on main street.Charles Harpole k4vud at hotmail.com
>
>
>
> > Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 22:54:13 -0600
> > From: w9ya at qrparci.net
> > To: soc at mailman.qth.net
> > Subject: Re: [SOC] This is What I'm Talkin' About!
> >
> > I COULD refute that which you spout, including that the UK (for instance)
> > has no crime problem, (or that it is less now that they got "rid" of
> their
> > guns, and so forth,) but these are your myths and they merely validate
> what
> > I originally said; You are full of it and need to have along talk with
> > yourself about the nature of some (the criminals) amongst the human race.
> > i.e. The lack of crime is a myth, that criminals behave differently
> > depending on where they are, or that there is ANY way to prevent it by
> > ignoring that it takes place.
> >
> > Anyways I am enjoying your confusion about people and the way they
> behave,
> > so perhaps you should continue your rant about things for my amusement !!
> >
> >
> > Have a NICE day OM.
> >
> > es Vy 72 de
> >
> > - Bob
> > w9ya
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 8:47 PM, Ian C. Purdie <
> > ianpurdie at integritynet.com.au> wrote:
> >
> > > w9ya wrote:
> > >
> > > > This guy is full of it....and he should probably have an honest talk
> with
> > > > himself about it...
> > > Well Bob that could be construed as a nice introduction to civilised
> and
> > > rational discussion.
> > >
> > > > i.e. EVERYWHERE there are criminals who will steal what
> > > > is not theirs including another's life.
> > >
> > > And your point is? In Australia we simply do not have criminals running
> > > amok. Similarly other countries such as UK, Canada, New Zealand and
> most
> > > if not all European Union countries. Speaking for Australia alone, I
> > > don't lock my house, I don't lock my car. I don't live my life in fear
> > > of anything. I don't personally know anyone else who does.
> > >
> > > > History and the wisdom attained from an honest appraisal tells us
> EXACTLY
> > > that.
> > >
> > > I see absolutely no history of that in Australia nor in the other
> > > countries I mentioned. None of us are perfect, none of us are crime
> free
> > > and never will be. But we don't live with constant fear.
> > >
> > > > ALSO there are a class of folks that will happily decide for YOU
> whether
> > > you have the god-given right to protect that which is yours, including
> your
> > > life
> > >
> > > Who would those folks be in Australia? Would they be the huge majority
> > > who do not ever want a gun culture? Nobody here is denied the right to
> > > protect themselves.
> > >
> > > We simply don't see a problem where one doesn't exist.
> > >
> > > > those societies will destroy themselves because of such tyranny,
> again
> > > something history teaches if you take the trouble to read and study
> > >
> > > Not Australia nor probably the other countries mentioned earlier are
> > > they likely to destroy themselves. Australia is most certainly not
> > > tearing itself apart politically from within.
> > >
> > > Among all the advanced countries in the world, for all practical
> > > purposes, 100% of all eligible Australian people vote in fair elections
> > > and everyone abides by the result - with good grace and manners.
> > >
> > > Among all OECD countries, we don't even have a recession. We don't have
> > > dodgy Banks or dodgy Insurance companies because we don't have a lack
> of
> > > good prudential regulation. We have a world class and very cheap
> > > universal health care system. Cost? - 1.5% of taxable income. We
> > > continually embrace reform and good governance no matter which party is
> > > in government.
> > >
> > > So where is the need for fear?
> > >
> > > > And so it goes......NOTHING NEW HERE, NOW MOVE ALONG......
> > >
> > > Well this is not a "Fox News" forum where they shout. No doubt you will
> > > inform us upon what basis you can conclude to inform me to:
> > >
> > > > NOW MOVE ALONG......
> > >
> > > You know nothing of me, my background or my history with this list.
> > > Because people do not agree with the views circulating in your little
> > > section of the world, it doesn't make them wrong, just simply
> different.
> > >
> > >
> > > 72/73's
> > >
> > > Ian C. Purdie
> > > Budgewoi N.S.W. Australia - Co-ords -S33° 13' 54.70", +E151° 33' 4.75"
> > > VK2TIP "I'll give ya the TIP mate" QRP-L #1978. SOC #171 FP#91
> > > http://www.electronics-tutorials.com/
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