[SOC] This is What I'm Talkin' About!

Tue Oct 13 01:35:08 EDT 2009

Sorry Bob, but people do act differently in different places and times:Places:-Thai-s are loath to do anything bad if anyone, even buddies in crime, can see them.-Bhutan has such a small population that a bad criminal will be known quickly, so there are VERY few bad people there.Time:1940-- Think about car-jacking... unknown in 1940 (yes, there were cars then).1700s--English army would never fight from behind trees, etc.... just not manly nor soldier-like.Point:  over time and place, people will have standards of "what they just will not do" and there are still some of thesestandards here today, if different from other days/times.  For example, a man who has done murder is, nevertheless, extremely unlikely to walk naked in daylight on main street.Charles Harpole k4vud at hotmail.com 

> Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 22:54:13 -0600
> From: w9ya at qrparci.net
> To: soc at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [SOC] This is What I'm Talkin' About!
> 
> I COULD refute that which you spout, including that the UK (for instance)
> has no crime problem, (or that it is less now that they got "rid" of their
> guns, and so forth,) but these are your myths and they merely validate what
> I originally said; You are full of it and need to have along talk with
> yourself about the nature of some (the criminals) amongst the human race.
> i.e. The lack of crime is a myth, that criminals behave differently
> depending on where they are, or that there is ANY way to prevent it by
> ignoring that it takes place.
> 
> Anyways I am enjoying your confusion about people and the way they behave,
> so perhaps you should continue your rant about things for my amusement !!
> 
> 
> Have a NICE day OM.
> 
> es Vy 72 de
> 
> - Bob
> w9ya
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 8:47 PM, Ian C. Purdie <
> ianpurdie at integritynet.com.au> wrote:
> 
> > w9ya wrote:
> >
> > > This guy is full of it....and he should probably have an honest talk with
> > > himself about it...
> > Well Bob that could be construed as a nice introduction to civilised and
> > rational discussion.
> >
> > > i.e. EVERYWHERE there are criminals who will steal what
> > > is not theirs including another's life.
> >
> > And your point is? In Australia we simply do not have criminals running
> > amok. Similarly other countries such as UK, Canada, New Zealand and most
> > if not all European Union countries. Speaking for Australia alone, I
> > don't lock my house, I don't lock my car. I don't live my life in fear
> > of anything. I don't personally know anyone else who does.
> >
> > > History and the wisdom attained from an honest appraisal tells us EXACTLY
> > that.
> >
> > I see absolutely no history of that in Australia nor in the other
> > countries I mentioned. None of us are perfect, none of us are crime free
> > and never will be. But we don't live with constant fear.
> >
> > > ALSO there are a class of folks that will happily decide for YOU whether
> > you have the god-given right to protect that which is yours, including your
> > life
> >
> > Who would those folks be in Australia? Would they be the huge majority
> > who do not ever want a gun culture? Nobody here is denied the right to
> > protect themselves.
> >
> > We simply don't see a problem where one doesn't exist.
> >
> > > those societies will destroy themselves because of such tyranny, again
> > something history teaches if you take the trouble to read and study
> >
> > Not Australia nor probably the other countries mentioned earlier are
> > they likely to destroy themselves. Australia is most certainly not
> > tearing itself apart politically from within.
> >
> > Among all the advanced countries in the world, for all practical
> > purposes, 100% of all eligible Australian people vote in fair elections
> > and everyone abides by the result - with good grace and manners.
> >
> > Among all OECD countries, we don't even have a recession. We don't have
> > dodgy Banks or dodgy Insurance companies because we don't have a lack of
> > good prudential regulation. We have a world class and very cheap
> > universal health care system. Cost? - 1.5% of taxable income. We
> > continually embrace reform and good governance no matter which party is
> > in government.
> >
> > So where is the need for fear?
> >
> > > And so it goes......NOTHING NEW HERE, NOW MOVE ALONG......
> >
> > Well this is not a "Fox News" forum where they shout. No doubt you will
> > inform us upon what basis you can conclude to inform me to:
> >
> > > NOW MOVE ALONG......
> >
> > You know nothing of me, my background or my history with this list.
> > Because people do not agree with the views circulating in your little
> > section of the world, it doesn't make them wrong, just simply different.
> >
> >
> > 72/73's
> >
> > Ian C. Purdie
> > Budgewoi N.S.W. Australia - Co-ords -S33° 13' 54.70", +E151° 33' 4.75"
> > VK2TIP "I'll give ya the TIP mate" QRP-L #1978. SOC #171 FP#91
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