[SOC] This is What I'm Talkin' About!

Tue Oct 13 08:03:04 EDT 2009

Help! I have fallen into a strange mail list! (And my joke sent 24 hrs
ago hasn't got here yet!)

K3NY Nick The doctor

On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 1:42 AM, hank  k8dd <k8dd at arrl.net> wrote:
> This has really become SOC .....
> But ..... google "Crime in Australia"    It's everywhere and that's Second
> Class.
> http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=15304
> http://www.crimestoppers.com.au/
> https://www.osac.gov/Reports/report.cfm?contentID=79128
> https://www.osac.gov/Reports/report.cfm?contentID=101186
> http://www.discoverychannel.co.uk/ontv_highlights/promo8/index.shtml
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> The list goes on .....
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> On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 1:35 AM, Charles Harpole <k4vud at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Sorry Bob, but people do act differently in different places and
>> times:Places:-Thai-s are loath to do anything bad if anyone, even buddies in
>> crime, can see them.-Bhutan has such a small population that a bad criminal
>> will be known quickly, so there are VERY few bad people there.Time:1940--
>> Think about car-jacking... unknown in 1940 (yes, there were cars
>> then).1700s--English army would never fight from behind trees, etc.... just
>> not manly nor soldier-like.Point:  over time and place, people will have
>> standards of "what they just will not do" and there are still some of
>> thesestandards here today, if different from other days/times.  For example,
>> a man who has done murder is, nevertheless, extremely unlikely to walk naked
>> in daylight on main street.Charles Harpole k4vud at hotmail.com
>>
>>
>>
>> > Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 22:54:13 -0600
>> > From: w9ya at qrparci.net
>> > To: soc at mailman.qth.net
>> > Subject: Re: [SOC] This is What I'm Talkin' About!
>> >
>> > I COULD refute that which you spout, including that the UK (for instance)
>> > has no crime problem, (or that it is less now that they got "rid" of
>> their
>> > guns, and so forth,) but these are your myths and they merely validate
>> what
>> > I originally said; You are full of it and need to have along talk with
>> > yourself about the nature of some (the criminals) amongst the human race.
>> > i.e. The lack of crime is a myth, that criminals behave differently
>> > depending on where they are, or that there is ANY way to prevent it by
>> > ignoring that it takes place.
>> >
>> > Anyways I am enjoying your confusion about people and the way they
>> behave,
>> > so perhaps you should continue your rant about things for my amusement !!
>> >
>> >
>> > Have a NICE day OM.
>> >
>> > es Vy 72 de
>> >
>> > - Bob
>> > w9ya
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 8:47 PM, Ian C. Purdie <
>> > ianpurdie at integritynet.com.au> wrote:
>> >
>> > > w9ya wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > This guy is full of it....and he should probably have an honest talk
>> with
>> > > > himself about it...
>> > > Well Bob that could be construed as a nice introduction to civilised
>> and
>> > > rational discussion.
>> > >
>> > > > i.e. EVERYWHERE there are criminals who will steal what
>> > > > is not theirs including another's life.
>> > >
>> > > And your point is? In Australia we simply do not have criminals running
>> > > amok. Similarly other countries such as UK, Canada, New Zealand and
>> most
>> > > if not all European Union countries. Speaking for Australia alone, I
>> > > don't lock my house, I don't lock my car. I don't live my life in fear
>> > > of anything. I don't personally know anyone else who does.
>> > >
>> > > > History and the wisdom attained from an honest appraisal tells us
>> EXACTLY
>> > > that.
>> > >
>> > > I see absolutely no history of that in Australia nor in the other
>> > > countries I mentioned. None of us are perfect, none of us are crime
>> free
>> > > and never will be. But we don't live with constant fear.
>> > >
>> > > > ALSO there are a class of folks that will happily decide for YOU
>> whether
>> > > you have the god-given right to protect that which is yours, including
>> your
>> > > life
>> > >
>> > > Who would those folks be in Australia? Would they be the huge majority
>> > > who do not ever want a gun culture? Nobody here is denied the right to
>> > > protect themselves.
>> > >
>> > > We simply don't see a problem where one doesn't exist.
>> > >
>> > > > those societies will destroy themselves because of such tyranny,
>> again
>> > > something history teaches if you take the trouble to read and study
>> > >
>> > > Not Australia nor probably the other countries mentioned earlier are
>> > > they likely to destroy themselves. Australia is most certainly not
>> > > tearing itself apart politically from within.
>> > >
>> > > Among all the advanced countries in the world, for all practical
>> > > purposes, 100% of all eligible Australian people vote in fair elections
>> > > and everyone abides by the result - with good grace and manners.
>> > >
>> > > Among all OECD countries, we don't even have a recession. We don't have
>> > > dodgy Banks or dodgy Insurance companies because we don't have a lack
>> of
>> > > good prudential regulation. We have a world class and very cheap
>> > > universal health care system. Cost? - 1.5% of taxable income. We
>> > > continually embrace reform and good governance no matter which party is
>> > > in government.
>> > >
>> > > So where is the need for fear?
>> > >
>> > > > And so it goes......NOTHING NEW HERE, NOW MOVE ALONG......
>> > >
>> > > Well this is not a "Fox News" forum where they shout. No doubt you will
>> > > inform us upon what basis you can conclude to inform me to:
>> > >
>> > > > NOW MOVE ALONG......
>> > >
>> > > You know nothing of me, my background or my history with this list.
>> > > Because people do not agree with the views circulating in your little
>> > > section of the world, it doesn't make them wrong, just simply
>> different.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > 72/73's
>> > >
>> > > Ian C. Purdie
>> > > Budgewoi N.S.W. Australia - Co-ords -S33° 13' 54.70", +E151° 33' 4.75"
>> > > VK2TIP "I'll give ya the TIP mate" QRP-L #1978. SOC #171 FP#91
>> > > http://www.electronics-tutorials.com/
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