[SixClub] Reply from John K8OCL

[Gabriel Sierra]

Hello gang,

This is John's response to my letter:

"Gabriel,

Thanks for your input.

73,
John - K8OCL"

His e-mail is K8OCL at hotmail.com

Our user base on 6 meter is a big but normally quiet
one, so we are exposed, now that the BW have been
limited on the other bands, to this kind of
situations. Only us can prevent this from happening
again, by swarming like a disrupted fire ants' nest
when this things happen. We need to take this
experience, and learn from it. Does anybody has an MP3
file of how this signals sound? It could simplify
making heads or tails of this kind of interference.
Keep your ears open, and report to this and other 6M
groups. Remember, no ID, no HAM.

Take care everyone, 73

Gabriel Sierra, WP3BM
51.620 -500 Khz offset, Puerto Rico




--- Gabriel Sierra <g_moonrec at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I wrote this to the digi guys in response to the
> answer they gave you.
> 
> John,
> 
> Your remark to Bruce about band use are discourteous
> at best, not with the etiquette normally found in
> this
> band. If you have seen the band plan, there is not
> much room to work with. From 52 Mhz and up there is
> the FM band which hasn't the same propagation
> charasteristics as the lower part of the band, and
> is
> full of repeaters and simplex users, so AM use is
> near
> to imposible. 50.4 mHz is the international AM voice
> frequency. If you know anything about propagation,
> even with little power you can wreak havoc on an AM
> reception thousands of miles away, and this is more
> so
> with digital modes. Also, if you know something
> about
> antennas, most beam antennas have a limited BW, most
> have 1000 khz, so moving is not easy without
> retuning,
> and we all know that inline antenna tuner
> performance
> is questionable at best. For attitudes like this,
> the
> FCC now have limited the BW on many bands, when a
> bunch of "experimenters" like you, tried to expand
> the
> BW use for the sake of "hiFi" sounding phone
> emissions, and telling bonafide users "you do not
> own
> the band". Get my drift?
> 
> We are not against experimenting, but bulldozering
> your needs over the needs of others without prior
> consultation with the band users on the appropriate
> channels is unethical, at best.
> 
> Continue with your experiments if you wish, there is
> always ITU, and once this fact is known, you will
> hear
> complains all over.
> 
> Thanks for taking the time to read this. You are
> welcome on 50.4 to the various nets in there to
> expose
> your needs and reach agreements. Once you know there
> are legitimate users in a segment and you ignore
> them,
> it could be taken as malicious interference.
> 
> Take care,
> 
> Gabriel Sierra, WP3BM Repeater
> 51.620, Puerto Rico
> 
> 
> --- bruce mallon <wa4gch at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> > Bruce,
> > 
> > We have an FCC license, albeit Experimental, just
> > like
> > you do, so our HSMM testing will continue: all 200
> > kHz
> > of it and at 1.5 KW, if that much power 
> > is required for our links.
> > 
> > Last I heard neither you nor SMIRK own the 6M
> band,
> > at
> > least not all of it (HI). Out of 4 MHz there
> should
> > be
> > some room for radio experimenters too, 
> > wouldn't you agree? However, we are restricted to
> > 50.3
> > - 50. 8 MHz, while you can go anywhere in the band
> > you
> > wish.
> > 
> > John - K8OCL
> > 
> > 
> > 
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> Gabriel Sierra
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