[RVRC] Ballot for membership, K2EEI
Susan Frances Terregino via RVRC
rvrc at mailman.qth.net
Wed Aug 20 10:01:26 EDT 2014
And in addition, raising already high dues to try to make up for lost members and lack of new members and the endless growing debt on the already existing members and associates isn't fair. And I have a few comments on the 440 repeater being permanently linked to what seems like the entire Eastern seaboard. It disgusts me to be paying high dues every year and finding the 440 repeater almost constantly tied up by out of state hams on the link. I feel like I am paying to support 2 repeaters of which one I can almost never use when I do turn on the radio. Please consider terminating the link and if someone from out of state wants to use the repeater then they can utilize the echolink or irlp. I would like to hear from the membership how they feel about the 440 being linked and overrun to the point they can't even use their own club repeater which makes it worse if the 2 meter is in use at the time. I'm all for sharing the use of open repeaters in the
spirit of ham radio but this is out of hand.
Susan
www.compassion.com
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On Wed, 8/20/14, Marvin Bronstein <marvbrons at verizon.net> wrote:
Subject: Re: [RVRC] Ballot for membership, K2EEI
To: "Anna Nannery" <kd2duk at gmail.com>
Date: Wednesday, August 20, 2014, 4:33 AM
But if the By-Laws and
Constitution ARE to be
effective
''for the club's well-being'', then it
is important to be
followed! There is and
has always been a standard policy and method of
accepting new members. Yes, we want new
members......and.........we want
members to
be 'active'. It remains in the large part, the
responsibility of
the 'sponsors' to
campaign for and make their candidate known to the
members. This doesn't have to be a
long-drawn-out process but a simple
pathway
for membership.
Introduce the candidate,
give the candidate 2 meetings to be familiar with
the members and vice-versa and then take a
vote!! Simple! Expected!
(It was said that
we had about 90 members before this year; it wasn't the
membership
rules that discouraged their
joining nor caused their leaving!)
RVRC has
existed for 80+ years following
it's
established rules.
Additionally,
Yes, we do want membership..........but if
it's only because RVRC wants their 'dues'
then I feel the effort is misdirected. If the
club direction is to create
expensive
projects that involve only spending on ''the
repeaters'', then the
real effort
should be in FUNDRAISING as Susan had pointed out.
Let's face this fact,
folks, RVRC does absolutely NOTHING except the one
fund-raising event....."hamfest". Of
the 60+ members in the club, how many
use
our repeaters? Perhaps the remainder of the membership had
joined to
experience more activities! We
lost 30% of our membership just this
year.....all at one time!
If it
is the desire of the membership to pursue only development
and
maintainance of the repeaters, doubling
our membership will not provide the
funds
needed and other fund raising programs must be entertained;
Susan's
point.
Here is
an excerpt from the ARRL ''The Club President's
Handbook"
Maintaining
Interest;
Occasionally, when there is a lot
of business to discuss, the club can spend
a profitable evening without a program, but a
club that tries to exist for
very long this
way will find itself gradually losing attendance. It is
important to have a program of some sort, and
preferably one that will be of
interest to
a majority of club members.
Members are the lifeblood of the club. They are
difficult to find, more
difficult to keep,
and at times, difficult to work with. Members come in a
wide variety of shapes, colors, sizes,
backgrounds, skills experience, and
levels
of motivations. They have their own reasons for
participating and
their own specific needs
which must be met if they are to continue to be
members.
The
'club' is even more, a social club where members
share their activities,
experiences,
knowledge and love of ham radio!
The failure to ''maintain
interest'' is the reason we have lost membership,
not
because of our membership acceptance
policy and procedures.
Let's just follow the way we've been
accepting new members and when changes are
desired...........someone propose it and change
the rules....by VOTE!
73,
Marv
k2vhw
P.S. A good beginning to
revitalize RVRC would be for the president to create an
"activities committee'', appoint a
'chairperson' and
bring programs
into the meetings. We have many members with a large
variety of skills who could present short programs of their
skills at meetings.
We should be inviting
guests and radio amateurs to present ham radio and
electronics programs at meetings. There is little better
than ''hands-on'' programs to infuse
interest! (Even a video of interest can work!)
----- Original Message
-----
From: Anna Nannery
To: Susan Frances Terregino
Cc: RVRC Distribution ; Marvin Bronstein
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2014 5:13 PM
Subject: Re: [RVRC] Ballot for membership,
K2EEI
To RVRC Club,
I am very sorry to see these e-mails!!! Most
people complaining were at the meeting and did not object to
sending out the ballot. At the meeting was the best
place object.Â
For anyone not at the meeting one reason
this membership was accepted is because the candid showed up
to the July meeting which was canceled. This was
discussed at the meeting said to be his first meeting since
he came out. Therefore, this was his second meeting.Â
No one at the meeting objected at any point of the
discussing or when asked about send out this e-mail. Â Â
Â
I
agree with Sue (kb2sfh) that the political quibbling and
undermining each other all the time is a shame and needs to
stop.Â
Anna Nannery
kd2duk
On Tue,
Aug 19, 2014 at 1:23 PM, Susan Frances Terregino via RVRC
<rvrc at mailman.qth.net>
wrote:
And this is an
example of why RVRC is losing members and hardly gaining new
ones, all this political quibbling and undermining each
other all the time, spending money you don't have and
not wanting to put effort into additional fundraising that I
have been pushing for in the past. Who really wants to sit
at meetings and listen to such counterproductive infighting
and backstabbing? I even am considering not renewing my
membership next January for reasons such as this among
personal situations. So please keep acting the way you
all are and soon this club will just fold into nothing.
 <smh in complete disgust!>
Susan
kb2sfh
Â
www.compassion.com
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On Tue, 8/19/14, Marvin Bronstein <marvbrons at verizon.net>
wrote:
 Subject:
[RVRC] Ballot for membership, K2EEI
Â
To: "RVRC Distribution" <rvrc at mailman.qth.net>
 Date: Tuesday, August 19, 2014, 12:35
PM
 RVRC MEMBERS;
Â
To begin with I wish to express my strong approval for
new
 memberships.
 .
 Bringing new members is
always a good foundation to operate
Â
an amateur radio club. But in this case, the
procedure
 is wrong. (1) It is
wrong on two counts; the RVRC
Â
Constitution and by-laws specifically spell out the
 requirement for two readings of the
application. The
 purpose of
this specification is to make the membership
 familiar with the candidate. It
has always been the
 RESPONSIBILITY
of the SPONSORS to make their candidate(s)
 known to the membership campaign and
prove the candidates
 qualification
and suitability. (2) Then it is also important
 for the candidate to attend those two
readings so the
 membership can
become familiar with that candidate for whom
 the sponsors are asking for membership
acceptance and it
 demonstrates a
strong desire from the candidate to be an
 active member!
 .
 The summary discharge and ignorance of
the rules are
 unacceptable!Â
What 'rules' will be next to be
 violated? The officers can not make such a
 determination as to what
'rules' will be ignored or
Â
violated. If it is the determination of the majority
 of voting members to suspend a
rule....a vote must be
 taken.
 .
 I object
to this behavior of ignoring the Constitution and
 By-Laws; if we don't like a rule,
change it first.
 .
 This candidate, Lee, K2EEI, sounds
like he would make a
 solid and
valuable member.........but who knows? The
 sponsors are responsible to present
their candidate to the
 membership
and the membership must have the opportunity to
 know who it is they're voting for
membership.
 .
 If it is the desire of a voting member (full member)
to
 change our Constitution and/or
By-Laws and eliminate such
Â
requirements......then it must be submitted as such to
the
 membership, at a meeting, then
the membership has an
 opportunity
to decide by VOTE!
Â
This issue is not a 'simple' issue. This is a major
issue
 and violation of our
rules.
 Marv,
K2VHW
 k2vhw at verizon.net
 Dear
RVRC Club Member,
Â
This mailing is to provide you with a Ballot for a
 candidates who has
 applied for regular membership to the Raritan Valley
Radio
 Club. The
 information for the candidate has been NOT been read
at the
 two required
 club meetings and certain individuals
feel it's no longer
Â
necessary,
 Please
respond with a yes or no vote for the applicant
 indicated in the
 areas provided below.
 Lee
C. Lensky, K2EEI
Â
Lee, a General class operator, is from Highland Park, NJ.
 His sponsors are
 Craig, AC2FE and Mike, KB2VRM. He is a employed by
Novartis
 Pharmaceuticals
 as IT director, architect. Lee has
held the previous calls:
 KA2DKT,
WN2HTW
 and WA2HTW. He3 has never
been denied a license and operates
Â
most bands.
 Lee is
getting back into the hobby after a 27 year absence.
 He states he
Â
needs plenty of elmering and would like to volunteer to
work
 on club
 activities. Lee was associated with the Garden State
Amateur
 Radio
 Association and is interested in special events and
the
 technical committee.
 Lee's other activities include
Flying, music, biking, sports
Â
and
 performance cars.
    Â
Â
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