[R-390] Survey to Consider Moving R-390 Mail List to Groups.IO

Thu Jun 25 16:40:11 EDT 2026

I agree with Dave.

Tom KC5L

On 6/25/26 10:26 AM, Dave Merrill via R-390 wrote:
> I vote NO change for the following reasons:
>
> - Traffic on the group has been very light for the past few years. Most of
> what needed to be discussed has been said, just not everyone has said it
> yet.
>
> - Let's face it: the group largely consists older persons who won't be
> around much longer. If Interest was increasing, a change to a modern list
> service would be more justified.
>
> - Someone has to collect and pay the $250 groups.io fee each year, a
> thankless task. If each of the 500+ current subscribers gave $5 today, that
> would cover the groups.io fee for 10 years. That's not gonna happen. I
> doubt that 10% would pony up. Priorities change when people have to
> actually pay, even a nominal amount.
>
> - Conversions always result in confusion for some. I anticipate plenty of
> unnecessary traffic about dealing the change.
>
> - I subscribe to multiple qth.net groups and contribute $$ each year to
> support them. I don't have a problem with how the reflector operates.
>
> Yes, I'm a grumpy old guy but I ask you to consider my points and argue
> them if you disagree.
>
> --... ...-- Dave N9ZC
>
> On Tue, Jun 23, 2026, 9:54 AM Andy G8JAC via R-390 <r-390 at mailman.qth.net>
> wrote:
>
>> I am one of the long-term Lurkers on the list - one from across the Pond.
>> I joined perhaps 20 years ago when I bought my first (and so far only)
>> R-390A and needed to learn about the receiver and the technology of its era.
>> In the face of the expertise of the list members I could contribute
>> little, but I learned a lot. And my Motorola R-390A works very well as a
>> result.
>>
>> Here in UK I am a member of several groups that use Groups.IO  and foresee
>> absolutely no problems with this fraternity moving there. The platform
>> works, is configurable to your tastes and has been reliable.
>>
>> My vote therefore is yes, do it.
>>
>> Andy  G8JAC
>> Surrey, England.  (Where it's currently way hotter than Miami)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Evidently, there are a lot of lurkers in the membership who have no
>> opinion on a move to groups.io.  Perhaps those that have asked questions
>> or answered posts in the last year or so will determine if there is to be a
>> move or not?  A quick look at the archive, sorted by author, will give you
>> a good idea of who is active on this list.
>>
>> I use DuckDuckGo for my posts and find that all of the formatting gets
>> stripped from my posts so the post is just one long run-on sentence or
>> paragraph.  This makes things harder to read and is a bit frustrating when
>> I forget that mailman does not like DuckDuckGo.  So I am in favor of the
>> upgrade.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Jim
>>
>> Logic is a systematic method of coming to the wrong conclusion with
>> confidence.  Murphy
>>
>>      On Saturday, June 20, 2026 at 09:00:43 AM CDT, JOS K1JOS via R-390 <
>> r-390 at mailman.qth.net> wrote:
>>
>>   So far there have only been 35 respondents with the overwhelming majority
>> favorable for the move. A small number (<4) would prefer to keep things as
>> they are.  I'm not sure what threshold we should target for making this
>> decision but like most elections in our society, those who fail to vote
>> lose their voice in such decisions.  The list currently has 507 members, or
>> at least valid email addresses, with only 32 members marked for no mail or
>> digest delivery.  It is difficult to estimate truly 'active' members, but
>> unused emails do expire.  Gmail for example has a 2y inactivity (sender
>> side) limit at which point any emails to that address will be rejected
>> (bounced back to sender).  Yahoo email has a 12-month inactivity policy and
>> all other email service providers have something similar.  I routinely
>> receive notifications regarding bounced emails from our
>> r390 at mailman.qth.net <mailto:r390 at mailman.qth.net>  server and after 10
>> consecutive failed bounces I remove that person from the distribution list
>> so the (507 - 32) cannot be too stale an estimate.
>>
>>
>>
>> My proposal is to wait 2 weeks as some may be on vacation/holiday/illness
>> and revisit the final count at that point.  Interestingly, there is no fee
>> for small groups < 100 at Groups.IO for basic messaging/archiving.  In any
>> case, I would not close the mailman.qth.net list but rather continue
>> sending out a single monthly broadcast to the list pointing people to find
>> us on the new groups.io link.
>>
>>
>>
>> Suggestions/comments are welcome !!
>>
>>
>>
>> Jerry NY2KW (ex-K1JOS, ex-WB2ORJ)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: JOS K1JOS <k1jos at att.net>
>> Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2026 7:34 PM
>> To: R-390 at mailman.qth.net; k1jos at att.net
>> Subject: Survey to Consider Moving R-390 Mail List to Groups.IO
>>
>>
>>
>> There has been a proposal to move our mailing list to Groups.io due to
>> inconsistent mail/digest deliveries.  Groups.io has a very user friendly
>> interface, will send you email updates or digests plus it has a robust
>> searchable archive of messages and files.  The hosting fee is ~ $250/year.
>> If we can establish a minimum interest among the current 500+
>> r-390 at milman.qth.net <mailto:r-390 at milman.qth.net>  members we can move
>> forward.
>>
>>
>>
>> All comments, suggestions, criticisms, etc are welcome.
>>
>>
>>
>> Those who have already responded under the previous 'TEST' subject header
>> need not reply again.
>>
>>
>>
>> Link to Groups.io :  https://groups.io/
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks to all !
>>
>>
>>
>> Jerry NY2KW (K1JOS) R-390 mail list administrator
>>
>>
>>
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