[R-390] Survey to Consider Moving R-390 Mail List to Groups.IO

Thu Jun 25 12:32:40 EDT 2026

Well said, Dave.

As a long time member, It doesn't matter to me.

I no longer own any of the R-390 series or any vacuum receivers save for a 1940 RCA Console.

All of my remaining receivers or transceivers are solid state, an Icom 756 Pro III and Racal 6790 with all the bells and whistles.

I'm 82, most of the old-time regulars have seemed to have disappeared or have passed away. I keep subscribed to the list for the occasional
interesting post.

There is very little to listen to shortwave wise even though I can hear BBC via long path most mornings. Ham nets and if one is interested military frequencies.

I've been retired for over 18 years and seldom post anymore, just lurking like many others.

Les Locklear
Dx'ing Since '57
Located in Gulfport, Mississippi
On the Gulf of Mexico.

----- Original Message -----
From: Dave Merrill via R-390 <r-390 at mailman.qth.net>
Reply-To: Dave Merrill <r390a.urr at gmail.com>
To: 
Cc: R-390 at mailman.qth.net <r-390 at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: 6/25/2026 10:26:29 AM
Subject: Re: [R-390] Survey to Consider Moving R-390 Mail List to Groups.IO
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> I vote NO change for the following reasons:
> 
> - Traffic on the group has been very light for the past few years. Most of
> what needed to be discussed has been said, just not everyone has said it
> yet.
> 
> - Let's face it: the group largely consists older persons who won't be
> around much longer. If Interest was increasing, a change to a modern list
> service would be more justified.
> 
> - Someone has to collect and pay the $250 groups.io fee each year, a
> thankless task. If each of the 500+ current subscribers gave $5 today, that
> would cover the groups.io fee for 10 years. That's not gonna happen. I
> doubt that 10% would pony up. Priorities change when people have to
> actually pay, even a nominal amount.
> 
> - Conversions always result in confusion for some. I anticipate plenty of
> unnecessary traffic about dealing the change.
> 
> - I subscribe to multiple qth.net groups and contribute $$ each year to
> support them. I don't have a problem with how the reflector operates.
> 
> Yes, I'm a grumpy old guy but I ask you to consider my points and argue
> them if you disagree.
> 
> --... ...-- Dave N9ZC
> 
> On Tue, Jun 23, 2026, 9:54 AM Andy G8JAC via R-390 <r-390 at mailman.qth.net>
> wrote:
> 
>> I am one of the long-term Lurkers on the list - one from across the Pond.
>> I joined perhaps 20 years ago when I bought my first (and so far only)
>> R-390A and needed to learn about the receiver and the technology of its era.
>> In the face of the expertise of the list members I could contribute
>> little, but I learned a lot. And my Motorola R-390A works very well as a
>> result.
>>
>> Here in UK I am a member of several groups that use Groups.IO  and foresee
>> absolutely no problems with this fraternity moving there. The platform
>> works, is configurable to your tastes and has been reliable.
>>
>> My vote therefore is yes, do it.
>>
>> Andy  G8JAC
>> Surrey, England.  (Where it's currently way hotter than Miami)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Evidently, there are a lot of lurkers in the membership who have no
>> opinion on a move to groups.io.  Perhaps those that have asked questions
>> or answered posts in the last year or so will determine if there is to be a
>> move or not?  A quick look at the archive, sorted by author, will give you
>> a good idea of who is active on this list.
>>
>> I use DuckDuckGo for my posts and find that all of the formatting gets
>> stripped from my posts so the post is just one long run-on sentence or
>> paragraph.  This makes things harder to read and is a bit frustrating when
>> I forget that mailman does not like DuckDuckGo.  So I am in favor of the
>> upgrade.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Jim
>>
>> Logic is a systematic method of coming to the wrong conclusion with
>> confidence.  Murphy
>>
>>     On Saturday, June 20, 2026 at 09:00:43 AM CDT, JOS K1JOS via R-390 <
>> r-390 at mailman.qth.net> wrote:
>>
>>  So far there have only been 35 respondents with the overwhelming majority
>> favorable for the move. A small number (<4) would prefer to keep things as
>> they are.  I'm not sure what threshold we should target for making this
>> decision but like most elections in our society, those who fail to vote
>> lose their voice in such decisions.  The list currently has 507 members, or
>> at least valid email addresses, with only 32 members marked for no mail or
>> digest delivery.  It is difficult to estimate truly 'active' members, but
>> unused emails do expire.  Gmail for example has a 2y inactivity (sender
>> side) limit at which point any emails to that address will be rejected
>> (bounced back to sender).  Yahoo email has a 12-month inactivity policy and
>> all other email service providers have something similar.  I routinely
>> receive notifications regarding bounced emails from our
>> r390 at mailman.qth.net <mailto:r390 at mailman.qth.net>  server and after 10
>> consecutive failed bounces I remove that person from the distribution list
>> so the (507 - 32) cannot be too stale an estimate.
>>
>>
>>
>> My proposal is to wait 2 weeks as some may be on vacation/holiday/illness
>> and revisit the final count at that point.  Interestingly, there is no fee
>> for small groups < 100 at Groups.IO for basic messaging/archiving.  In any
>> case, I would not close the mailman.qth.net list but rather continue
>> sending out a single monthly broadcast to the list pointing people to find
>> us on the new groups.io link.
>>
>>
>>
>> Suggestions/comments are welcome !!
>>
>>
>>
>> Jerry NY2KW (ex-K1JOS, ex-WB2ORJ)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: JOS K1JOS <k1jos at att.net>
>> Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2026 7:34 PM
>> To: R-390 at mailman.qth.net; k1jos at att.net
>> Subject: Survey to Consider Moving R-390 Mail List to Groups.IO
>>
>>
>>
>> There has been a proposal to move our mailing list to Groups.io due to
>> inconsistent mail/digest deliveries.  Groups.io has a very user friendly
>> interface, will send you email updates or digests plus it has a robust
>> searchable archive of messages and files.  The hosting fee is ~ $250/year.
>> If we can establish a minimum interest among the current 500+
>> r-390 at milman.qth.net <mailto:r-390 at milman.qth.net>  members we can move
>> forward.
>>
>>
>>
>> All comments, suggestions, criticisms, etc are welcome.
>>
>>
>>
>> Those who have already responded under the previous 'TEST' subject header
>> need not reply again.
>>
>>
>>
>> Link to Groups.io :  https://groups.io/
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks to all !
>>
>>
>>
>> Jerry NY2KW (K1JOS) R-390 mail list administrator
>>
>>
>>
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