[PPRAANet] Lic Plates

Mon Feb 25 18:56:12 EST 2019

Well said, Doug.  

Dick - W0RAA
Sent from my iPad Pro 10.5

> On Feb 25, 2019, at 4:48 PM, Doug <cnd.moloney at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> I have been watching this discussion and as a fifth-generation native of
> Colorado; and, the Great-grandson of a State Senator and a State
> Representative in the 1880's I felt I have to chime in.
> 
> Dennis, NØABC, has very succinctly illustrated how disrespectful our elected
> officials have been to the voters of Colorado.  The Colorado politicians
> will find what I call unethical and devious ways to circumvent laws and
> voters mandates (TABOR).  This license plate fee business is only the tip of
> the iceberg.  
> 
> Case in point; if you vote for Candidate A for president, for example, and
> Candidate A wins the Colorado vote by a wide margin but Candidate B gets
> only one vote more in the national count, Candidate B gets elected.  This is
> an end-around to void our electoral college and constitution.  So, if the
> license plate fees upset you, be aware that it is trivial to what is
> happening in the big picture here in Colorado, and in our nation.
> 
> Respectfully,
> 
> Doug WØMHP 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ppraanet-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:ppraanet-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Dennis Major
> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 2:28 PM
> To: ppraanet at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [PPRAANet] Lic Plates
> 
> While looking for specific information on ownership tax the other day, I 
> ran across this article which explains the whys and wherefors of so many 
> ridiculous fees. Basically, it boils down to our illustrious leaders 
> circumventing the TABOR amendment. One of the more aggravating examples 
> to me was with that stupid stormwater tax that they pushed down our 
> I have been watching this discussion and as a fifth-generation native of
> Colorado; and, the Great-grandson of a State Senator and a State
> Representative in the 1880's I felt I have to chime in.
> 
> Dennis, NØABC, has very succinctly illustrated how disrespectful our elected
> officials have been to the voters of Colorado.  The Colorado politicians
> will find what I call unethical and devious ways to circumvent laws and
> voters mandates (TABOR).  This license plate fee business is only the tip of
> the iceberg.  
> 
> Case in point; if you vote for Candidate A for president, for example, and
> Candidate A wins the Colorado vote by a wide margin but Candidate B gets
> only one vote more in the national count, Candidate B gets elected.  This is
> an end-around to void our electoral college and constitution.  So, if the
> license plate fees upset you, be aware that it is trivial to what is
> happening in the big picture here in Colorado, and in our nation.
> 
> Respectfully,
> 
> Doug WØMHP 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ppraanet-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:ppraanet-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Dennis Major
> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 2:28 PM
> To: ppraanet at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [PPRAANet] Lic Plates
> 
> While looking for specific information on ownership tax the other day, I 
> ran across this article which explains the whys and wherefors of so many 
> ridiculous fees. Basically, it boils down to our illustrious leaders 
> circumventing the TABOR amendment. One of the more aggravating examples 
> to me was with that stupid stormwater tax that they pushed down our 
> throats as a "Fee." Of course, getting back to the vehicle registration 
> aspect, the big change came about 10 years ago when they threw in the 
> Bridges Fee and Roads Fee so that they wouldn't be "raising our taxes" 
> and therefore requiring a vote from the citizens. Now they just add more 
> and more "fees" and they keep getting away with it. And they still can't 
> keep the roads maintained - even after getting another boost in taxes.
> 
> https://www.denverpost.com/2017/08/20/colorado-voters-taxpayer-bill-rights/
> 
> One of my cars recently had these charges listed as "Registration Fees" :
> Age of vehicle add-on - $10.00
> Registration Base Fee - $7.00
> Bridge Safety Surcharge - $18.00
> Clerk Hire Fee - $4.00
> County Road and Bridge - $1.50
> Emergency Medical Serv - $2.00
> Emissions - Statewide - $0.50
> Insurance Fee - $0.50  -- the insurance companies all collect this, too!
> Motorist Insurance Dat - $0.10
> Peace Officer Standard - $1.00
> Road Safety Surcharge - $23.00
> Specific Ownership Tax - $3.00
> Material Fee (Year Tab - $0.17
> Late Fee - $0.00
> 
> I have many thoughts about this situation, but I'm trying to 
> restrain/control my language here on the reflector.
> 
> El Paso County and the State of Colorado are certainly not non-profits.
> 
> 
> 73
> 
> Dennis
> N0ABC
> 
>> On 2/25/2019 1:58 PM, George Shaiffer wrote:
>> Interesting morning, not!
>> Went to Powers & Airport Motor vehicle office.
>> Did not like the clerks $ numbers.
>> Asked for Supervisor, phone call made, result same $ numbers.
>> 
>> Call Letter Plates                  $2.00
>> Clerk hire Fee                       $4.00
>> Material Fee (Month Tab)  $0.11
>> Material Fee (Plate)            $5.64
>> Material Fee (Year Tab)      $0.17
>>                                              $11.92
>> Paid under protest but the plates were only $2.00 plus $5.64 for the metal
> plus $4.28 for bureaucracy.
>> Just saying!  Looking for complaint form or is this the experience others
> have had?
>> George
>> KE0QCC
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> 73
> 
> Dennis Major, N0ABC
> Laurel ARC VEC, Region #10 Coordinator
> PPRAA VE Team Leader
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